Thats fair, but Trump running for office could be a lot bigger than that if it leads to domestic conflict.
Judges generally don't care if their decisions lead to domestic conflict. Nor should they, that's how rule of law can succumb to mob rule.
I understand that, but when judges do things like remove people from ballots over accusation, that is obviously a political decision.
When they reject congressional maps that violate the Voting Rights Act, that is also political. It has resulted in elected representatives losing their seats. Multiple times.
Judges enforce the law, and politics are not above the law
The law is not what they say, its biased and is not real justice many times. Do you recognize the five or so prosecutions against trump are political, and could result in severe domestic violence?
I think Trump broke the law and needs to face the consequences. I am not afraid of his threats of violence.
Okay, lets look at the real estate "crime" because i know real estate well. Who did he defraud and how?
He lied on his loan applications, which is illegal.
How did he lie on his application and who was harmed by this?
He overstated the value of his assets on a loan document. This is illegal in NY, so the people of NY were harmed.
Are you aware of underwriting? What it does is the loan company asks for all of the information it wants, and uses that information to decide if they should give you money and how much money to give you. So it doesnt matter what value they put on the property, the loan company decides what the value is.
This is illegal in NY, so the people of NY were harmed.
How is having an opinion that your property is worth more than someone else thinks a crime? And if it is, how can you possibly justify so much for a crime what you cant point to an actual person that was directly or even indirectly harmed?
In NY, it is a crime to falsely state the value of an asset on a loan document. It doesn't matter if an actual person is harmed.
There are plenty of laws that are designed to reduce the risk of harm. Apartment buildings are required to conform to fire codes. Restaurants are required to conform to health codes. Drivers are required to be sober and carry insurance.
If your apartment has no fire exits, it doesn't matter if nobody is hurt in a fire. If your restaurant pantry is full of rat droppings, it doesn't matter if nobody got ill. If you are pulled over drunk without insurance, it doesn't matter if you didn't get in an accident.
In each of those examples, you put people at risk, even if you "can't point to an actual person that was directly or even indirectly harmed". You broke the law, and you should be punished.
Furthermore, the punishment has to exceed whatever you might have gained from breaking the law. If you don't have auto insurance, the penalty has to be more than what auto insurance costs. Otherwise, you would be happy to pay a fine instead of buying auto insurance.
In New York, there are laws against inflating your asset values on loan documents. Those laws are meant to protect all New Yorkers. When Trump lied on his loan documents, he harmed all New Yorkers. He broke the law. And the penalty has to be greater than whatever money he thought he might save by lying.
Value of property is highly variable and up to opinion.
How was an average New Yorker harmed by trump claiming his property was worth more than it was? Please be very direct and specific. I can give you how trump getting that loan benefitted New Yorkers if you want...
Thats fair, but Trump running for office could be a lot bigger than that if it leads to domestic conflict.
Judges generally don't care if their decisions lead to domestic conflict. Nor should they, that's how rule of law can succumb to mob rule.
I understand that, but when judges do things like remove people from ballots over accusation, that is obviously a political decision.
When they reject congressional maps that violate the Voting Rights Act, that is also political. It has resulted in elected representatives losing their seats. Multiple times.
Judges enforce the law, and politics are not above the law
The law is not what they say, its biased and is not real justice many times. Do you recognize the five or so prosecutions against trump are political, and could result in severe domestic violence?
I think Trump broke the law and needs to face the consequences. I am not afraid of his threats of violence.
Okay, lets look at the real estate "crime" because i know real estate well. Who did he defraud and how?
He lied on his loan applications, which is illegal.
How did he lie on his application and who was harmed by this?
He overstated the value of his assets on a loan document. This is illegal in NY, so the people of NY were harmed.
Are you aware of underwriting? What it does is the loan company asks for all of the information it wants, and uses that information to decide if they should give you money and how much money to give you. So it doesnt matter what value they put on the property, the loan company decides what the value is.
How is having an opinion that your property is worth more than someone else thinks a crime? And if it is, how can you possibly justify so much for a crime what you cant point to an actual person that was directly or even indirectly harmed?
In NY, it is a crime to falsely state the value of an asset on a loan document. It doesn't matter if an actual person is harmed.
There are plenty of laws that are designed to reduce the risk of harm. Apartment buildings are required to conform to fire codes. Restaurants are required to conform to health codes. Drivers are required to be sober and carry insurance.
If your apartment has no fire exits, it doesn't matter if nobody is hurt in a fire. If your restaurant pantry is full of rat droppings, it doesn't matter if nobody got ill. If you are pulled over drunk without insurance, it doesn't matter if you didn't get in an accident.
In each of those examples, you put people at risk, even if you "can't point to an actual person that was directly or even indirectly harmed". You broke the law, and you should be punished.
Furthermore, the punishment has to exceed whatever you might have gained from breaking the law. If you don't have auto insurance, the penalty has to be more than what auto insurance costs. Otherwise, you would be happy to pay a fine instead of buying auto insurance.
In New York, there are laws against inflating your asset values on loan documents. Those laws are meant to protect all New Yorkers. When Trump lied on his loan documents, he harmed all New Yorkers. He broke the law. And the penalty has to be greater than whatever money he thought he might save by lying.
Value of property is highly variable and up to opinion.
How was an average New Yorker harmed by trump claiming his property was worth more than it was? Please be very direct and specific. I can give you how trump getting that loan benefitted New Yorkers if you want...