Nonsense. After Rod Blagojevich was caught trying to sell a Senate seat, I was glad to see him go to jail. And he is a Democrat.
I suppose you wonder why he was even arrested, after all when politicians are paid off both parties are happy with the outcome.
And for the last time, I am not afraid of Trump's threats.
Oh wow, you are happy a democrat went to prison... I am also not afraid of trumps threats, I am afraid what happens if trump loses and the maga people get mad because the election was actually blatently tampered with this time.
I am happy when crooked politicians go to prison, regardless of their party. And Trump is as crooked as any.
I am not afraid of maga people who are angry that the crook they worship was found guilty.
I am not afraid of maga people who are angry that the crook they worship was found guilty.
Uh, you should be, it could be the end of the country.
Do you think the jan 6th rioters should be getting years in prison?
Angry maga people aren't going to be the end of this country, that's just fear mongering.
Yes, Jan 6 rioters should face the consequences of breaking the law. Depending on the actual conduct of each individual, that may be prison or it may just be a fine.
I dont think you understand what could happen, what happens if tens of millions of people say the federal government is no longer legitamate, and they refuse to follow its rules and laws?
About jan 6th people, did they deserve years in prison for going into a building and not doing any violent acts?
I'm still not afraid of maga people.
Tens of millions? How many people do you suppose have sent Trump $1 or more? It's about 500K. The rest might vote for him, but they don't even want to buy a red hat.
And I'm supposed to believe that there exist 9.5 million people who don't want to send Trump a single dollar - despite his multiple requests - but are willing risk their lives for him?
The Jan 6 rioters deserve prison if that's in the federal sentencing guidelines for their crimes. Rules are rules. Not everyone in prison is there for violent crime.
I feel like you are not aware of how long of sentences people are getting for tresspassing. For example the shaman I think got 42 months for entering a building and acting like an idiot.
Trespassing might have been the charge if Congress weren't in session. It was.
He pled guilty to obstruction of a federal proceeding, under 18 USC 1512.
Max sentence is 20 years. So 41 months seems about right. Now that's an example of "finding out".
He pled guilty because he was going to get stream rolled. So you think its fair to get 41 months in prison for trespassing?
Trespassing is when you break into an empty federal building. What he did went way beyond trespassing. Like I said, the charge was obstruction of a federal proceeding and 41 months seems about right.
When government officials can't do their job because of you, things get very serious very fast and feds don't play around. Just ask Martha Stewart, formerly inmate #55170-054, who made the mistake of sending feds on a wild goose chase.
The obstructing federal proceedings is just a bullshit charge they use to make it sound worse. My biggest issue on these riot charges is how you guys yell about how bad it was but then ignore the george floyd riots. You guys only care about jan 6th because it is an example of why you dont mess with the federal governemnt in dc.
as someone excited to see police precincts burn, I have to reluctantly agree a bit. riots are fair play as far as I'm concerned, and having the libs criminalize this shit feels like another knife in the back.
Now, if you're trying to say the Democrats tampered with the election, there's absolutely zero evidence for that, as has been proven in court case after court case.
as has been proven in court case after court case.
No it wasnt, they cases didnt make it to court due to standing. You guys care about the law in politcal cases when it benefits your team only.
When there was voter fraud (note, not election fraud, different deal), it was onesy-twosy cases initiated by voters, was not systemic, and would not have turned the election.
I understand what you are saying, and I dont agree they have a bunch of false things, I am saying that most of their cases were not even heard due to standing.
Nonsense. After Rod Blagojevich was caught trying to sell a Senate seat, I was glad to see him go to jail. And he is a Democrat.
I suppose you wonder why he was even arrested, after all when politicians are paid off both parties are happy with the outcome.
And for the last time, I am not afraid of Trump's threats.
Oh wow, you are happy a democrat went to prison... I am also not afraid of trumps threats, I am afraid what happens if trump loses and the maga people get mad because the election was actually blatently tampered with this time.
I am happy when crooked politicians go to prison, regardless of their party. And Trump is as crooked as any.
I am not afraid of maga people who are angry that the crook they worship was found guilty.
Uh, you should be, it could be the end of the country.
Do you think the jan 6th rioters should be getting years in prison?
Angry maga people aren't going to be the end of this country, that's just fear mongering.
Yes, Jan 6 rioters should face the consequences of breaking the law. Depending on the actual conduct of each individual, that may be prison or it may just be a fine.
I dont think you understand what could happen, what happens if tens of millions of people say the federal government is no longer legitamate, and they refuse to follow its rules and laws?
About jan 6th people, did they deserve years in prison for going into a building and not doing any violent acts?
I'm still not afraid of maga people.
Tens of millions? How many people do you suppose have sent Trump $1 or more? It's about 500K. The rest might vote for him, but they don't even want to buy a red hat.
And I'm supposed to believe that there exist 9.5 million people who don't want to send Trump a single dollar - despite his multiple requests - but are willing risk their lives for him?
The Jan 6 rioters deserve prison if that's in the federal sentencing guidelines for their crimes. Rules are rules. Not everyone in prison is there for violent crime.
I feel like you are not aware of how long of sentences people are getting for tresspassing. For example the shaman I think got 42 months for entering a building and acting like an idiot.
Trespassing might have been the charge if Congress weren't in session. It was.
He pled guilty to obstruction of a federal proceeding, under 18 USC 1512.
Max sentence is 20 years. So 41 months seems about right. Now that's an example of "finding out".
He pled guilty because he was going to get stream rolled. So you think its fair to get 41 months in prison for trespassing?
Trespassing is when you break into an empty federal building. What he did went way beyond trespassing. Like I said, the charge was obstruction of a federal proceeding and 41 months seems about right.
When government officials can't do their job because of you, things get very serious very fast and feds don't play around. Just ask Martha Stewart, formerly inmate #55170-054, who made the mistake of sending feds on a wild goose chase.
The obstructing federal proceedings is just a bullshit charge they use to make it sound worse. My biggest issue on these riot charges is how you guys yell about how bad it was but then ignore the george floyd riots. You guys only care about jan 6th because it is an example of why you dont mess with the federal governemnt in dc.
as someone excited to see police precincts burn, I have to reluctantly agree a bit. riots are fair play as far as I'm concerned, and having the libs criminalize this shit feels like another knife in the back.
Plenty of people went to jail after the George Floyd riots. Unlike right-wingers, I'm not obsessed by setting criminals free.
I'm not sure which election tampering you're talking about. It's clear Trump and his cronies interfered with the 2020 election, from establishing fake electors in multiple states to the interruption of election certification on January 6th.
Now, if you're trying to say the Democrats tampered with the election, there's absolutely zero evidence for that, as has been proven in court case after court case.
No it wasnt, they cases didnt make it to court due to standing. You guys care about the law in politcal cases when it benefits your team only.
Tell that to Mike Lindell:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/02/22/mike-lindell-election-dispute-decision/
Or Rudy Giuliani:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/02/22/mike-lindell-election-dispute-decision/
Or the "Cyber Ninjas":
https://www.americanoversight.org/court-orders-senate-and-cyber-ninjas-to-immediately-turn-over-audit-records
Case after case after case... There was nothing wrong with the 2020 election aside from the fraud Trump and company engaged in.
There has been cases they got wrong, but that doesnt mean all the cases were proven wrong, or all of their arguments were invalid.
They didn't "get it wrong". They have proven, repeatedly, that there was no systemic election fraud in 2020.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118
When there was voter fraud (note, not election fraud, different deal), it was onesy-twosy cases initiated by voters, was not systemic, and would not have turned the election.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-nevada-voting-election-2020-09052a5509f7161e9edd15c6ed8de518
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporter-convicted-casting-multiple-ballots-2-elections-1821757
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/florida-three-arrested-vote-twice-the-villages-1271574/
I understand what you are saying, and I dont agree they have a bunch of false things, I am saying that most of their cases were not even heard due to standing.