What is a story were the main villain actually turned out to be the good guy?

Lanky_Pomegranate530@midwest.social to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 163 points –
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Not exactly a story. I just watched Babylon 5, and it's fascinating how the good guys are the bad guys are the good guys are the bad guys...

Who are you?

What do you want?

Also, I think good and bad is a bit fluid there. It's just people with different agendas. Well, except emperor Cartagia. And perhaps Bester.

It's Me, Myself and I.

Achieving a state of complacementness in an unperfect world full of suffering and joy.

Yep – that's what I like about it. Good and bad are fluid, like in reality. Even Bester is shown to be a caring character striving for the good of his people.

What bad guys are good guys? The reverse is obviously Vorlons.

No bad guys are good guys. And most good guys are not good guys, either.

The Shadows, the Centauri and the PSI Corps are introduced as "bad guys" but gain a lot of positive aspects during the show without becoming "good guys". The Nightwatch and the Earth Governement under president Clark are "bad guys" – but quite a few of there supporters/members become important "good" characters, like Zach Allan, Elizabeth Lochley or Susanna Luchenko.

That's my point about the Babylon 5 series – they deconstruct the good guy/bad guy meme. Mostly.

Centauri got positive aspects? Londo personally, maybe, but not the Centauri. Psi cops as well did not become better, but more like “even bad people have feelings” type of thing.