Lemmy's Image Problem (Updated 02-06-2024)

Fediverse@lemmy.ml – 154 points – 8 months ago

Highlighting the recent report of users and admins being unable to delete images, and how Trust & Safety tooling is currently lacking.

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Hey everyone, I just wanted to thank you for the lively conversation and thought-provoking insights.

We don't have to agree on every point (or at all), but I've decided to synthesize a lot of thoughts and ideas from these conversations into a blog post: https://deadsuperhero.com/2024/03/economic-musings-on-federated-networks/

If your are going to act so entitled just because the devs get 2k euro a month (which is under the average income in france and germany) you should just go back to reddit

I generally think these guys are being a bunch of assholes.

However, some people in the comment threads challenged my point of view, and stated that users have no rights to demand anything from developers who give away their work for free.

Just wow that is how they start it

They're not wrong. On multiple occasions the devs have acted like assholes, this one as well. Especially the part where they initially didn't think GDPR would apply because they aren't a commercial entity (paraphrasing) is comically depressing.

Having said that, I won't be cancelling my donations anytime soon. Assholes though they might be, I still want to pay back to the Lemmy community, and I can't think of a better way than this.

TL;DR: it came out that some devs of one of the biggest platforms in their respective space neglected to bring in some very basic functionality regarding the ability for users, mods, and admins to delete images that were uploaded. When a user asked about having this functionality, especially in the context of GDPR compliance, the devs acted like a bunch of entitled dicks, effectively bellowing at the person for daring to make such demands of their time.

I generally think these guys are being a bunch of assholes.

Software engineer full-time ~70k/year, lemmy dev 24k/year. You should look into the mirror.

And it's not that the devs won't fix the issue but there are other issues with more priorities than this. Europe is not the only continent. So just like any other FOSS projects, wait for it or smash money if it's really important or do it yourself.

Btw based on Nutomic's comment, it's fixed next release if you bother to look before making 2 articles back to back. ::: spoiler spoiler Unfortunately there was some miscommunication in this issue and we failed to get to the root cause. In fact the Lemmy backend has an option to delete all content when an account is deleted. This used to be the default behaviour but was changed in 0.19 so you need to set a parameter delete_content. We failed to add a checkbox for this parameter to lemmy-ui.

However the checkbox is added now in #2385 and will be included in the next Lemmy release. Other frontends and clients may also need to adjust the delete_account api call. :::

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It's pretty fucked up you post your blogs, read people's comments, and use those to write your next blog post.

Like, real fucked up ...

Not sure I'm seeing what's fucked up about this. It's not like they're using people's comments as their own work. They link back to this thread. It just seems like a place where they can dump a bunch of their own thoughts related to a topic without posting it here since it's not necessarily in line with this thread's topic anymore. And I thought it was an interesting read and appreciated them posting it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dude has a 4 year Lemmy account with 160 comments...

Supposedly some kids of developer, but from his last two blog posts he doesn't seem to know much about how it works, and that last article he just rants about Lemmy admins, Devs, and users...

I dunno, I blocked them.

I'm a long-time contributor to the space, and have been here for over 15 years. I was on the Fediverse when it was literally one or two platforms, and I witnessed the whole thing grow and evolve. I've seen the entire thing take shape, and change with every subsequent wave of platform, user migration, and major pivot.

I also ran community management for one of the large-scale early projects here.

A huge motivating factor of mine has been to write about a nascent and evolving space that I'm passionate about, often because no one else has been writing about it. I grew my own publication, We Distribute, out of it, and it's my responsibility to report on different aspects of what happens in the space. Sometimes, the news is ugly.

My personal blog at my domain is unrelated to that, and is more just random brain droppings based on whenever I feel like putting out personal thoughts based on my experiences. There's nothing malicious about that.