Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear

Armok: God of Blood@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 158 points –

The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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People should have free speech, governments shouldn't have the ability to degrade our platform with shills and LLMs, especially if they're spreading propaganda for dictatorships.

governments shouldn't have the ability to degrade our platform with shills and LLMs

I agree, but that is exactly what the United States and the West does.

China, Russia, and Iran do it as well, of course.

"The west" has been caught flat-footed in the modern disinformation game, they have nothing comparable.

That may have been true in 2014.

It is no longer true in 2024

Said the anonymous account without citing any source.

Literally everyone on this site is an anonymous account. Why would you possibly think that is a relevant point? Plus your account is less than 30 days old, so if we're going to start questioning users' motives and origins then perhaps we should start with you

And I watch congressional hearings with intelligence agency leaders. They have affirmed that our messaging (propaganda) efforts on the internet have greatly improved since 2016. Which is evident just from comparing Reddit today to reddit in 2015

The most powerful country in the world is just a little guy! It doesn't even know what it's doing, it's just a little guy!!

Are you serious with this shit? If you want to see someone steeped in propaganda, take your head out of the bowl of kool-aid and look in a mirror.

Insulting me because you have no reasonable response?

My response was plenty reasonable given your unreasonable claim that somehow the most powerful country in the word with the most sophisticated media machine got "caught flat-footed" in the modern disinformation game. They were heavily astroturfing reddit as far back as 2013 and have probably been at it for longer: https://web.archive.org/web/20160604042751/http://www.redditblog.com/2013/05/get-ready-for-global-reddit-meetup-day.html

You know, unless you think the eglin air force base were just superfans of reddit. That's just reddit, now imagine more important platforms.

A sophisticated media machine that can't even hide the real location of it's shill accounts? And you're the one mocking me?

Some operations are more careful than others and I'm sure lessons have been learned since 2013. Meanwhile you think somehow China's and Russia's operations are more sophisticated because your media uncovers them?