Team Biden Roasts 'Feeble, Confused, Tired' Trump After Unhinged Presser

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Team Biden Roasts 'Feeble, Confused, Tired' Trump After Unhinged Presser
rollingstone.com

The president has been going after his presumptive 2024 opponent with a little more venom than usual

Joe Biden is taking it to Donald Trump.

The president’s campaign responded to Trump’s wild press conference in New York on Monday by slamming the former president as “weak and desperate — both as a man and a candidate for President.”

“He spent the weekend golfing, the morning comparing himself to Jesus, and the afternoon lying about having money he definitely doesn’t have,” the statement read, adding that “America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”

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Trump isnt a convicted sex criminal... and the other guy has some serious sexual allegations too, outside of being creepy around kids

He was found liable for sexual abuse in NY civil court and fined $5 million for it.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/e-jean-carroll-trump-lawsuit-battery-defamation-verdict/index.html

The judge made it very clear Trump is a rapist, saying:

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

Biden has never been charged in civil or criminal court for any sexual impropriety. It is simply a lie that there are any serious sexual allegations against him.

He was not convicted of rape.

And if you compare what biden allegedly did to what trump allegedly did, Bidens accusation seems much more accurate. It actually had colloborating evidence at the time, vs no evidence against trump.

The judge in the case said Trump was convicted of rape. There are no credible accusations against Biden. You are repeating lies.

Please tell me one of the juror names in the trump rape conviction.

Why dont you believe women when they claim they are raped?

The jurors are anonymous as is common in trials where the defendant has a history of calling for violence against people he views as his enemies.

I believe women who take their rapists to court.

Jurors are allowed to disclose if they were on a case. So you are saying that there was a case he was convicted in by a jury?

Gotcha, so women that are too embarrassed, or dont want the public scrutiny are just liars then? Really?!?

Funny how you understand that rape victims might not want public scrutiny, but you don't understand jurors from a high profile case might want the same.

Also funny how Tara Reade only accused Biden while he was running against Trump and then moved to Russia to do interviews with a known Russian spy. She told no one it happened at the time (1993) and there is no evidence of any complaints. Not all women are liars but Reade absolutely is.

but you don’t understand jurors from a high profile case might want the same.

Gotcha then there was a jury trial, how long was trump sentenced?

She told no one it happened at the time (1993) and there is no evidence of any complaints.

Uh, except she did tell her mother and her mother literally called in to a show and told the host, an unknown guy named Larry King.

Trump was charged in civil court for raping Eugene Carol and was ordered to pay $5 million in restitution plus another $83 million for continuing to defame her after the original verdict.

A dead mother and a tape that doesn't mention any sexual assault is pretty shitty evidence.

Uh, civil court is not a conviction of a crime...

Gotcha, you do not believe women if you like their assaulter. Thats terrible.

People who twist words around to intentionally misrepresent their conversational partners are neither arguing in good faith, nor are they good people, generally. Your parents should have taught you this. Do better.

Bad Faith Arguments:

It means that you're not arguing to come to a mutual understanding. In a true debate/argument, both sides must be willing to acknowledge if the other side has good points and be open to changing their minds. If you tell someone you want a "debate" but you really just want to antagonize them or preach to them, you are lying when you say you want to "argue".

Bad faith generally is an intent to deceive.

Here are some resources:

You can do better if you decide to. The first step to being better is learning how to converse and debate like a mature adult. You will continue to be labeled a troll if you decide you'd rather just keep acting like an uneducated, petulant child.

So obviously the first on is just a true statement, and the second one is using his own ideology against him. When people get like him and dont actually know the facts of the situation, or are not able to piece together basic concepts you have to use their own ideology or they just wont understand anything.

Are you wanting to compare the two rape cases?

No thank you. I don't like to engage too much with people who can't be bothered to proof-read their own posts.

Nor do I enjoy discussions with people who are so assured of their own self-righteousness that they ignore documented facts in lieu of their own personal opinions.

It just so happens that I also don't much enjoy arguing with people who have a documented public history of arguing in bad faith.

Oh yeah, i am totally the one ignoring facts...

Well, at least you acknowledge it. That's a start. You're more self-aware than the bulk of the 'righteous crusaders of truth™' that I've encountered.

Just for fun, because I'm bored, what facts have I ignored so far in our conversation? Remember, I'm @LengAwaits. Don't get me confused with the other people you've been talking to. I'm a different person who hasn't weighed in on any of your supposed "facts" so far. I'm not here to argue about popular political figures. I'm only here to call out glaring biases and bad faith arguments. Surely you'll engage with me on a more intellectual level than what you've so far managed to muster?