Meet the viral gun influencers pushing a hardline Christian beliefs

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Meet the viral gun influencers pushing a hardline Christian beliefs
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Gonna be real honest chief, I'm more scared of you going on a rampage because of your gun toting boogie man than I'm scared of your boogie man.

You wanna own a gun? Cool do it. You wanna own 50? I might raise an eyebrow, express a little concern but do it. (Every collector should raise an eyebrow at other collectors, it helps keep us in check). But man when you start sipping that fearaid please stay the fuck away from me. Nothing scarier than a gun owner preparing against an imaginary boogie man.

Did in any way dog whistle some form of left-wing violent revolution? Preparedness alone is a good thing, to be able to defend yourself. Learning how to use a rifle is a good thing, because you live in a perpetual state of gun violence anyways.

As for me? I don't live in the states. I don't need a gun. But if I had police killing innocent people like it's a sport in my surroundings, I would. The US police force is just a couple of steps away from wearing leather boots and knocking on doors. Word to Cop City.

Good luck. You'll need it.

Advocating for people to exercise their right to protect themselves is not advocating of violence. It's being realistic about where we live, how we live our lives, and who lives by us.

If you think the threat fascists pose is imaginary, you haven't been paying attention.

That's a much more real and tangible threat than whatever the original post was alluding to.

That's what the Op you replied to was talking about.

I see now that I had missed that part of the comment and I retract my statements. I'll leave them up for posterity though

Lol, forget January 6th 2021 so soon?

Myanmar?

Iran murdering the protestors?

Who is protecting you? The police?

Nope: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Forget the police violence of the George floydd protests?

Ya must have a bad memory.

You think you'd have a chance against the government oppression? If there is a terrible revolution and you pose a danger to the government and they really want to kill you, they will not send people after you.

They will send a drone or three, tracking you by your cell phone when you're traveling by car.

Easy pickings, and you'll never know what hit you. Your gun is useless for that scenario.

Buddy, the only thing having a gun is going to protect you from is one psychopath coming in to your home trying to kill you. And even then, you've got better then 50% odds to kill someone in your own family before you kill that guy.

If you think having a gun will protect you from the police, or the military, you've lost your fucking mind.

You simply don't have the resources to put up that fight, and you never will. The only thing having a gun will do for you there is ensure that you don't survive your encounter.

You forget Waco? Or that police can legally demolish any house they want if they think the guy they want is inside and has a guy? https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2021/11/police-release-name-of-man-fatally-shot-in-16-hour-standoff.html

We need significant reform, not doomers arming themselves to the teeth and looking for an excuse.

I understand where you're coming from. Obviously, non-violent means of enacting change like voting in reform should be the first choice to get things done.

What options exist when nonviolent means are exhausted though? Your argument is essentially:

"The government has the means to oppress the shit out of us. If it happens to us, there's no point in fighting back so just roll with it and let it happen. I feel it's better to have others force a way of life on me that I fundamentally disagree with, than it is to risk my life fighting for what I believe in so myself, my children, and foreseeable future generations can live their lives free of oppression."

With that, I hope you understand why I and many other disagree with your view.