R(ul)evenge USA edition

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The discourse on American politics sometimes devolves to "Leftists who won't vote" & "MAGA Republicans" teaming up to "getting revenge on liberals".

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Even people fighting for Palestinian liberation have to ensure Biden wins

no. we have to ensure the safety of the palestinian peopl and their liberation regardless of what happens november 2

When trump wins with your help, what are you going to be doing to help Palestinian people?

It will be too late, won't it?

i won't be helping trump win. i'll be voting against him.

The only way in the US system to throw a protest vote without it being a spoiler vote is to vote for the 3rd party which siphons votes from the candidate you want the least.

So since you prefer Biden over Trump, you should be voting for the libertarian candidate instead of West.

So since you prefer Biden over Trump, you should be voting for the libertarian candidate instead of West.

this makes no sense. i am going to vote for the candidate i want to win.

without it being a spoiler vote is to vote for the 3rd party which siphons votes

this is a lie. the votes don't belong to biden. they belong to me. if i give it to someone, it's not taking it from anyone else.

only way in the US system to throw a protest vote

voting isn't a protest, so this term makes no sense.

what are you going to be doing to help Palestinian people?

same thing i do now. agitate, educate, organize.

What specifically does any of that mean?

i don't talk about my personal organizing here. go find an org and help out.

Are you accusing me of being uncharitable towards others because I asked you to clarify what you meant?

Uhm, OK.

Are you accusing me of being uncharitable towards others

no. i'm telling you that's the best way to find out what i do.

How can I find out what you do if you refuse to tell me what organization I should go to?

you will have better luck blindly joining leftist orgs than asking me for more details here.

Can you please just do 1 response to 1 statement? This comment chain is going to grow exponentially if I respond to each thing that could have really just been 1 message to prevent repeating.

Great, and what are you going to say to all of the LGBT folk who get legislated out of existence because of your failure to protect them?

I do what I can to protect vulnerable people. I don't believe voting accomplishes that.

Voting third party is no vote at all. Therefore you are refusing to combat Trump, and so are complicit in his victory if it happens.

You are just as much to blame as the Reps if he wins.

You are just as much to blame as the Reps if he wins.

no. everyone is only responsible for their own actions. I'll be voting against trump