Biden’s renewed embrace of Israel threatens to deepen Democratic divide

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Biden’s renewed embrace of Israel threatens to deepen Democratic divide
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If Biden attacks Iran, he is at fault for starting a war. He’s the commander in chief. If he doesn’t attack Iran, he’s not at fault, because he did not start a war.

I don’t understand how that’s complicated.

Biden told Netanyahu he would not be involved in a direct war with Iran, so unless Iran attacks the US directly, Biden should be fine.

Biden told Netanyahu he would not be involved in a direct war with Iran, so unless Iran attacks the US directly, Biden should be fine.

Well, except for the votes he's already losing by supporting Netanyahu's existing genocide.

Why are you changing the subject instead of responding to what I said?

We're talking about Biden losing votes if he starts a war with Iran. He will not lose the votes that he would have lost if he started a war with Iran, but he is not "fine." He is still losing votes by supporting Netanyahu's existing genocide.

If you don't like hearing that genocide is unpopular, you need to hear it.

You boys want to see 2 million dead Palestinians and a war with Iran?

By all means, help Trump get back into office.

Biden should stop supporting genocide if he wants to win. He is losing votes because he supports it.

You would rather support genocide and lose than abandon genocide under any circumstances.

I think you are the one who supports genocide, not me, but okay.

Wouldn't be the first time this thread you've decided that opposition to genocide is support for genocide.

If you find it acceptable to make such accusations against people with no regard to truth value, why should that behavior not be directed back at you?

When will you stop supporting genocide, ensign?

Or do you want to actually make an attempt at having a respectful conversation? Is that something you are capable of?

When will you stop supporting genocide, ensign?

I've never supported genocide.

Then are you going to engage in an adult conversation instead supporting genocide and deflecting by accusing others?

Because I am going to mirror your behavior here. The ball is fully in your court.

I do not support genocide. If you want to talk about deflecting by accusing others:

By all means, help Trump get back into office.

This is you, deflecting from me saying that Biden will lose if he continues to support genocide by accusing me of being a trumpist.

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