Aiding genocide is a bad look
Edit: who would have thought that statement was controversial
This community has a lot of pro-genocide centrists.
No, cmon, please, living through significant impactful history is exhausting. We don’t want to do it anymore. Please just stop.
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Third once-in-a-lifetime economic crisis
9/11 and it's aftermath
Subprime crisis
Pandemic
We've already had three.
We've had three yes, but what about 4th crisis?
Capitalism is the most efficient way to allocate resources (to the 1%)
And don’t forget that we’re in the middle of getting a new Cold War going, what with Russia and China’s strategic plans for the near to mid-term future conflicting with what pretty much everyone else in the world is planning.
That gave me minor heart palpitations…
Because I don’t have it in me (literally) to give more… 😟
Donate to legal funds for those who get captured by police on April 15th or get your ass to a demonstration. This needs to stop.
If Biden starts a war with Iran, he needs to drop out of the race. He won’t possibly be able to win.
The options for Dems will be to find another candidate or throw their support behind Bobby Kennedy. Otherwise, it’s Trump.
Nahh, I would say 90% of us here will be voting for Biden.
Will some be stupid enough to vote for a Bobby Kennedy? Maybe? But I suspect a vast minority.
Again, IF Biden starts a war with Iran. That makes him unelectable. Name a Democrat who can beat Trump.
Otherwise, it’s Kennedy or Trump.
You think the conservatives won't start a war with Iran?
That makes both side "unelectable". So you scratch that off for both sides and keep looking for other differences. Like separation of church and state and reproductive rights.
You think the conservatives won’t start a war with Iran?
No one said they wouldn't.
Biden will lose enough votes to lose the election if he starts a war with Iran. No one here said they would be voting for Trump, just that Biden would lose votes.
When you don't vote, you essentially give your vote to the person you want the least; that's fundamental to FPTP. It doesn't matter if you don't directly vote for Trump in the current political system, what matters is you didn't vote for Biden.
You can try to change the voting system, but while you're in it this is the way to play. Vote Biden in and protest the shit out of his day to day.
And I didn't say I'm not voting. I'm voting for Biden.
I said Biden will lose votes if he starts a war with Iran. I did not say "Gee, I want another smug centrist to ignore what I'm saying and lecture me about shit I already know!"
Centrists don't listen.
I'm getting the impression you want Biden to start a war with Iran. Nobody legitimate is claiming that is on the table.
Why would I want Biden to start a war with Iran? Israel is about to ramp things up and his support is ironclad. The US joining an Israeli war against Iran is a legitimate concern.
Where are you getting reports that Israel is ramping up for direct war with Iran?
Everything I have read has said neither side is approaching further escalation at this time. Perhaps you have intel that hasn't made its way to open source yet?
I know outlier blogs like the BBC are generally disfavored, but at least hear them out.
The risk of escalation in the Middle East is very real.
You linked to an op-ed piece, not a journalist piece. Not your fault though. BBC needs to be a lot better at differentiating.
I can’t link to classified intelligence to provide ironclad evidence. This isn’t the war thunder forums.
The risk of a wider war developing in the Middle East is a very real risk. The fact that you won’t acknowledge that shows you argue in bad faith.
Of course its a real risk, I just think trying to spin it so that Biden is at fault before it happens is nakedly partisan.
If Biden attacks Iran, he is at fault for starting a war. He’s the commander in chief. If he doesn’t attack Iran, he’s not at fault, because he did not start a war.
I don’t understand how that’s complicated.
Biden told Netanyahu he would not be involved in a direct war with Iran, so unless Iran attacks the US directly, Biden should be fine.
I mean, except Iran.. and Israel (and by proxy through Israel the US).
Wars not just on the table, if it goes that way, the first strike will have been conducted by Israel (with US backing).
Other countries aren't delusional about the US's relationship with Israel the way Biden apologists seem to be.
So you think Iran and Israel are going to draw Biden into a war so that he loses the election, and the left should react to this by... Voting for Kennedy?
It is sad that a lot of leftists here sound indistinguishable from Steve Bannon in their geopolitical goals.
Your tired argument is costing us the election. We haven't even had a convention yet. We can nominate someone else other than Biden.
And when Biden wins reelection, what then? Do you post here admitting you were wrong?
At this point its becoming a question of beating Trump or supporting Biden.
Its seeming more and more like you'll have to pick.
Well I mean, the majority of polls show Biden beating Trump. Not a single poll shows Kennedy beating Trump or Biden.
Forgive my saying, but it's clear to absolutely everybody without an agenda that you don't know the first thing of what you are talking about.
Well I mean, the majority of polls show Biden beating Trump. Not a single poll shows Kennedy beating Trump or Biden.
The fuck are you talking about? Biden hasn't been leading in the polling in over 400 days.
YOU are the one who clearly doesn't know what they are talking about when their first claim can be immediately dismissed.
Biden is in unelectable territory at this point. He needs to be at 51-54 to be winning confidently and in the 55+ range to have this thing on lock down. Sub 45 and he's a disaster. He's was dipping into the 30s last month. Thats a trainwreck. Now he has moved up a touch since the SOTU, but his positions on Israel are costing him this election.
You actually need to get a clue.
This is an unsourced photo, and appears to be more than a month old.
Do you have more context to provide so I know what I am looking at?
Why can’t we replace Biden with Bernie instead? Kennedy is a nut job.
I'd like to vote Bernie in the general. I'd like it better about 8 years ago.
He's 8 years older than he was then. I think that's part of why he doesn't run. He wants the younger generation to take it up.
I really hope they do. The current set of democrats risk allowing the Republicans to get a solid foothold across demos that, normally, wouldn't be as split.
As Gaza’s death toll climbs and famine looms, criticism of Israel’s conduct of the war has been growing from the left and even the centre, with some calling for an end to US arms supplies.
This pressure, and the recent deaths of World Central Kitchen aid workers in Gaza, seemed to finally prompt a shift in Biden’s tone.
The Democratic senator John Fetterman, no friend of pro-Palestinian protesters, told CNN’s State of the Union: “It really demonstrates how it’s astonishing that we are not standing firmly with Israel and there should never be any kinds of conditions on all of that.
Amid the drumbeat for rallying against a common foe, Democrats who call for military aid to be conditioned will be accused of tone deaf appeasement.
On Sunday, the Washington news agenda was dominated by speculation over Biden can dissuade Netanyahu from striking back – “Take the win,” he reportedly said – and prevent a wider regional war, and whether Congress might now pass military aid for both Israel and Ukraine.
Gaza – where Israel’s offensive has killed at least 33,729 people, mostly women and children, according to the territory’s Hamas-run health ministry – was no longer uppermost in the thoughts of politicians or the journalists who interview them.
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Aiding genocide is a bad look
Edit: who would have thought that statement was controversial
This community has a lot of pro-genocide centrists.
No, cmon, please, living through significant impactful history is exhausting. We don’t want to do it anymore. Please just stop.
Congratulation! You have selected
Third once-in-a-lifetime economic crisis
We've already had three.
We've had three yes, but what about 4th crisis?
Capitalism is the most efficient way to allocate resources (to the 1%)
And don’t forget that we’re in the middle of getting a new Cold War going, what with Russia and China’s strategic plans for the near to mid-term future conflicting with what pretty much everyone else in the world is planning.
That gave me minor heart palpitations…
Because I don’t have it in me (literally) to give more… 😟
Fucking hate some board games… 🙂↕️
"May you live in interesting times."
Fuck Israel.
https://kolektiva.media/w/ba1cb5b0-521f-4aee-9334-bd5ab1dd16e1
Donate to legal funds for those who get captured by police on April 15th or get your ass to a demonstration. This needs to stop.
If Biden starts a war with Iran, he needs to drop out of the race. He won’t possibly be able to win.
The options for Dems will be to find another candidate or throw their support behind Bobby Kennedy. Otherwise, it’s Trump.
Nahh, I would say 90% of us here will be voting for Biden.
Will some be stupid enough to vote for a Bobby Kennedy? Maybe? But I suspect a vast minority.
Again, IF Biden starts a war with Iran. That makes him unelectable. Name a Democrat who can beat Trump.
Otherwise, it’s Kennedy or Trump.
You think the conservatives won't start a war with Iran?
That makes both side "unelectable". So you scratch that off for both sides and keep looking for other differences. Like separation of church and state and reproductive rights.
No one said they wouldn't.
Biden will lose enough votes to lose the election if he starts a war with Iran. No one here said they would be voting for Trump, just that Biden would lose votes.
When you don't vote, you essentially give your vote to the person you want the least; that's fundamental to FPTP. It doesn't matter if you don't directly vote for Trump in the current political system, what matters is you didn't vote for Biden.
You can try to change the voting system, but while you're in it this is the way to play. Vote Biden in and protest the shit out of his day to day.
First past the post explained (6:31)
And I didn't say I'm not voting. I'm voting for Biden.
I said Biden will lose votes if he starts a war with Iran. I did not say "Gee, I want another smug centrist to ignore what I'm saying and lecture me about shit I already know!"
Centrists don't listen.
I'm getting the impression you want Biden to start a war with Iran. Nobody legitimate is claiming that is on the table.
Why would I want Biden to start a war with Iran? Israel is about to ramp things up and his support is ironclad. The US joining an Israeli war against Iran is a legitimate concern.
Where are you getting reports that Israel is ramping up for direct war with Iran?
Everything I have read has said neither side is approaching further escalation at this time. Perhaps you have intel that hasn't made its way to open source yet?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68812884
I know outlier blogs like the BBC are generally disfavored, but at least hear them out.
The risk of escalation in the Middle East is very real.
You linked to an op-ed piece, not a journalist piece. Not your fault though. BBC needs to be a lot better at differentiating.
I can’t link to classified intelligence to provide ironclad evidence. This isn’t the war thunder forums.
The risk of a wider war developing in the Middle East is a very real risk. The fact that you won’t acknowledge that shows you argue in bad faith.
Of course its a real risk, I just think trying to spin it so that Biden is at fault before it happens is nakedly partisan.
If Biden attacks Iran, he is at fault for starting a war. He’s the commander in chief. If he doesn’t attack Iran, he’s not at fault, because he did not start a war.
I don’t understand how that’s complicated.
Biden told Netanyahu he would not be involved in a direct war with Iran, so unless Iran attacks the US directly, Biden should be fine.
You are being intentionally and obviously obtuse.
Hmmmm, maybe that last week they bombed the Iranian embassy in another country?
I mean, except Iran.. and Israel (and by proxy through Israel the US).
Wars not just on the table, if it goes that way, the first strike will have been conducted by Israel (with US backing).
Other countries aren't delusional about the US's relationship with Israel the way Biden apologists seem to be.
So you think Iran and Israel are going to draw Biden into a war so that he loses the election, and the left should react to this by... Voting for Kennedy?
It is sad that a lot of leftists here sound indistinguishable from Steve Bannon in their geopolitical goals.
Your tired argument is costing us the election. We haven't even had a convention yet. We can nominate someone else other than Biden.
And when Biden wins reelection, what then? Do you post here admitting you were wrong?
At this point its becoming a question of beating Trump or supporting Biden.
Its seeming more and more like you'll have to pick.
Well I mean, the majority of polls show Biden beating Trump. Not a single poll shows Kennedy beating Trump or Biden.
Forgive my saying, but it's clear to absolutely everybody without an agenda that you don't know the first thing of what you are talking about.
The fuck are you talking about? Biden hasn't been leading in the polling in over 400 days.
YOU are the one who clearly doesn't know what they are talking about when their first claim can be immediately dismissed.
Biden is in unelectable territory at this point. He needs to be at 51-54 to be winning confidently and in the 55+ range to have this thing on lock down. Sub 45 and he's a disaster. He's was dipping into the 30s last month. Thats a trainwreck. Now he has moved up a touch since the SOTU, but his positions on Israel are costing him this election.
You actually need to get a clue.
This is an unsourced photo, and appears to be more than a month old.
Do you have more context to provide so I know what I am looking at?
Why can’t we replace Biden with Bernie instead? Kennedy is a nut job.
I'd like to vote Bernie in the general. I'd like it better about 8 years ago.
He's 8 years older than he was then. I think that's part of why he doesn't run. He wants the younger generation to take it up.
I really hope they do. The current set of democrats risk allowing the Republicans to get a solid foothold across demos that, normally, wouldn't be as split.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
As Gaza’s death toll climbs and famine looms, criticism of Israel’s conduct of the war has been growing from the left and even the centre, with some calling for an end to US arms supplies.
This pressure, and the recent deaths of World Central Kitchen aid workers in Gaza, seemed to finally prompt a shift in Biden’s tone.
The Democratic senator John Fetterman, no friend of pro-Palestinian protesters, told CNN’s State of the Union: “It really demonstrates how it’s astonishing that we are not standing firmly with Israel and there should never be any kinds of conditions on all of that.
Amid the drumbeat for rallying against a common foe, Democrats who call for military aid to be conditioned will be accused of tone deaf appeasement.
On Sunday, the Washington news agenda was dominated by speculation over Biden can dissuade Netanyahu from striking back – “Take the win,” he reportedly said – and prevent a wider regional war, and whether Congress might now pass military aid for both Israel and Ukraine.
Gaza – where Israel’s offensive has killed at least 33,729 people, mostly women and children, according to the territory’s Hamas-run health ministry – was no longer uppermost in the thoughts of politicians or the journalists who interview them.
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