Add on top of the nature of these ultra capitalist worldwide corporations, even if they were able to mass produce this affordably that would mean decommisioning tens of millions in already existing production infrastructure. Why would they do that when they can delay next gen tech for greater profit?
mm totally! seems like a very “i’ll just wait for the next gen to buy an EV” kind of thing
… like, even if it’s possible it’s not possible… just the amount of energy required to be transferred into that battery wouldn’t charge in any existing charging infrastructure
Ya that is the other major point. Toyota doesn’t have a charging network, and they didn’t build out a hydrogen network for their hydrogen car.
So even if they have this battery it would not be able to do what they claimed in practical use.
Their hydrogen cars work fine.. as long as you live in a tiny area in california and have no desire to leave it lol
And are willing to pay “more” for expensive hydrogen.
Huh, the dude I know with a hydrogen car was bragging about the price of hydrogen compared to gas.
Maybe that is what they where bragging about? Ask them in 3 years when the free fuel runs out.
They got it used
Don't know what to tell you without your friend providing some actual real world numbers. Even the PRO hydrogen sites tend to note the high costs and are pushing for more cheap fossil fuel based natural gas reforming to make more of it cheaper (not green).
Yeah, I just know he liked it and gasoline costs were higher back then when we were talking about it. If memory serves that was 2016-2017, somewhere in the beforetimes. Hydrogen costs very well could have increased (to the consumer, in general, I don't know that market at all) since then. He did like bragging that he paid less to fuel it up than I did for my Nissan, but it wasn't free. Our local hydrogen station is right next to the government employee fuel depot so there might have been some subsidy? I'll have to ask next time we get lunch.
There have been and still are several subsidies from what I have read.. I don't live anywhere close to a station it is fairly limited to a hand full of stations.
Add on top of the nature of these ultra capitalist worldwide corporations, even if they were able to mass produce this affordably that would mean decommisioning tens of millions in already existing production infrastructure. Why would they do that when they can delay next gen tech for greater profit?
mm totally! seems like a very “i’ll just wait for the next gen to buy an EV” kind of thing
… like, even if it’s possible it’s not possible… just the amount of energy required to be transferred into that battery wouldn’t charge in any existing charging infrastructure
Ya that is the other major point. Toyota doesn’t have a charging network, and they didn’t build out a hydrogen network for their hydrogen car.
So even if they have this battery it would not be able to do what they claimed in practical use.
Their hydrogen cars work fine.. as long as you live in a tiny area in california and have no desire to leave it lol
And are willing to pay “more” for expensive hydrogen.
Huh, the dude I know with a hydrogen car was bragging about the price of hydrogen compared to gas.
https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/why-is-hydrogen-fuel-so-expensive/8558411/
The Toyota Mirai comes with $15,000 worth of free fuel https://www.toyota.com/mirai/
Maybe that is what they where bragging about? Ask them in 3 years when the free fuel runs out.
They got it used
Don't know what to tell you without your friend providing some actual real world numbers. Even the PRO hydrogen sites tend to note the high costs and are pushing for more cheap fossil fuel based natural gas reforming to make more of it cheaper (not green).
Yeah, I just know he liked it and gasoline costs were higher back then when we were talking about it. If memory serves that was 2016-2017, somewhere in the beforetimes. Hydrogen costs very well could have increased (to the consumer, in general, I don't know that market at all) since then. He did like bragging that he paid less to fuel it up than I did for my Nissan, but it wasn't free. Our local hydrogen station is right next to the government employee fuel depot so there might have been some subsidy? I'll have to ask next time we get lunch.
There have been and still are several subsidies from what I have read.. I don't live anywhere close to a station it is fairly limited to a hand full of stations.