Antisemitism vote set to reignite House Democrats' divisions

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House Democrats are poised to be split on a resolution aimed at cracking down on allegations of antisemitism on college campuses.

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It would require the Department of Education to use the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's definition of antisemitism in enforcing federal statutes prohibiting discrimination against students.

The IHRA definition, controversially for many on the left, includes "denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination" and "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis," as examples of antisemitism.

So, I guess they would need to find a non-Nazi genocidal government to compare the actions of this specific Israeli government to. Suggestions?

America 1776-1964.

Apartheid South Africa.

Imperial Japan.

Fascist Italy.

Hungary.

Occupied Austria.

Vichy France.

Stalin's USSR.

Does Vichy really count as non-Nazi?

Also there's Cambodia and Rwanda.

Legally distinct, good enough for this purpose.

Legally distinct

Just barely. And under whose laws, again?

Technically correct is the best kind of correct in a lawsuit, which is what the comment was about.

And Vichy France was technically an independent state.

Lets add the Trukish government during the Armenian genocide to that list.

You mean the Ottoman Empire.

It was at the death of the Ottomans and the birth of modern Turkey, I say the sins lies with both.

If the generals most responsible didn't fight and lose a civil war to the Kemalists that'd be fair. One of the reasons modern Turkey refuses to acknowledge the genocide is that the Kemalists lost power when they instituted democracy and the parties that took over more or less oppose their ideals.

Kemalism is generally noted for its rejection of Ottoman policy and heritage and the focus on secularism, gender equality, and state support of the sciences. This legacy is basically the only thing keeping Erdogan from declaring himself Caliph.

This isn't to imply Kemalism is a blameless ideology, it is ultimately a liberal nationalist movement and they had no problems brutally putting down Kurdish separatists, but Turkey is different from the Ottoman Empire, no matter how much Erdogan wishes it isn't.