MTG Cites Antisemitic Fable Jews ‘Handed Over’ Jesus To Be Killed

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I'm Jewish and have been told very angrily that I killed Jesus more than once. It's fun.

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So...

  • A preacher lived around that time.
  • His name was ridiculously common.
  • He was baptized.
  • He was crucified.

Notably NOT:

  • He was born of a Virgin.
  • He was the son of a supernatural deity.
  • He performed supernatural acts.
  • He was resurrected.

To call this "Historical Jesus" is misleading at best. It is reasonable to say DOZENS of people fit that description.

Let's try the same argument today... "A preacher named John was baptized and later was convicted of serious crimes and sentenced by a judge." How many fit this description? Isn't it more likely true than false? What does that prove?

This whole argument tries to equate mundane statistics with miracles. It adds nothing to any reasonable discussion outside of post-hoc theological justification.

I don’t think anyone here claimed historical Jesus was the son of the magical sky wizard.

Some folk heros are based on historical people; some aren’t.

The thing is that people are basing the magical sky wizards manifesting himself as his son as this “Jesus” character they’ve made up and have decided existed in the way they pretend because there is some tangential corroboration somewhere.

No one here made that claim. But it’s the claim you’re continually arguing against.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What makes a better lie:

  • A 100% fabrication
  • A lie that selects elements from reality, and invents parts of the whole story

Muhammad was also a known historical figure, as was Joseph Smith.