Exclusive: Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump

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Exclusive: Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump
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They know Donald will destabilize the country and accelerate a collapse. They think that will make room for China to expand.

If their goal is to destroy the US then helping Trump makes sense, at least.

The hypocrisy comes when millions of vulnerable people they pretend to care about actually suffer as a direct result of their nihilism. Acceptable costs, right?

It really is shocking that more people on the "Lemmy left" don't see this. The US is one of the most tolerant places in the world for a bunch of otherwise marginalized groups. Pretending that it is irredeemable and must be destroyed because of your cold war grudge is destroying one of their biggest safe spaces and condemning them to suffer.

Hypothetically if you had to chose between supporting Israel or Biden winning in 2024 which would you choose?

Why do you think my comment has anything to do with Israel?

You didn't answer my question so I dunno why you think I would answer yours.

Just hypothetically would you rather have a duck sized horse or a horse sized duck?

By not answering you have chosen to support Israel and Joe Biden loses the election in this completely hypothetical scenario.

I'm going to give you a serious answer even though it's obvious you know nothing about us and don't care to learn.

Accellerationism is stupid and reactionary, and from my perspective Biden seems to be doing a fine job of doing that as it is. Trump is a symptom produced from the policies Biden has spent his entire career enacting. There will be plenty more candidates like Trump, because the material conditions that produced him still exist, and Biden is perpetuating and worsening those conditions.

The US is in decline and that's not going to change regardless of who wins this election. What I'd most prefer is to refocus our efforts domestically in order to address some of the many different crises that the country is experiencing. If we did this, it's likely that China would eventually eclipse the US due to it's manufacturing capacity, but the lives of everyday people would be improved and the country would become more stable and healthy. Whether the decline could be reversed, I don't know, but it would at least be a gradual, peaceful decline.

But that's never going to happen, even a little bit. Instead, our leaders are intent on getting involved in conflicts all over the world while ignoring all the problems at home and allowing things to get worse and worse. The geopolitical interests of the US government are completely disconnected from the interests of the American people.

The US doesn't need to collapse for China to grow. China's strategy for many years has been a policy of peaceful coexistence with capitalist states while it focuses on economic development. And that strategy is proving successful. The only concern is what the US is going to do once it becomes eclipsed as global hegemon, and the concerning thing is that while China manufactures more than the next 10 countries combined, the US spends more on the military than the next 10 countries combined. The possibility that the US could start WWIII in an attempt to maintain hegemony by pressing the area where it has an advantage is deeply concerning.

Even if you believe, as you probably do, that Xi Jinping is paying me to run around some niche corner of the internet pretending to be Phoenix Wright - why would China actually want to destabilize the US? They're already winning the peace.

Hm, read a dissertation from a Uighur genocide fan who communicates in childish video game cartoons, or focus on people who aren't delusional? Tough choice for me but I'll have to go with the latter.

Well, no one can say I didn't try. If that's the kind of engagement you want,

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objection

phoenix-objection-1phoenix-objection-2 In a court of law, evidence is the only thing that matters! Your baseless accusations are... completely meaningless!

What a goofy little clown. You have no substantial thoughts and have to do this instead.

Thanks for the laughs and nostalgia. Loved that game.

You have no substantial thoughts

objection

There is a contradiction in this testimony! You literally just called my previous comment a "dissertation" and refused to read it! So it's impossible for you to know if my thoughts are substantive or not!

The defense would like to submit a piece of evidence: this tweet!

This doesn't actually prove anything, I just think it's funny!