Israel troops continue posting abuse footage despite pledge to act

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Israel troops continue posting abuse footage despite pledge to act
bbc.com

The BBC has analysed 45 photos and videos, which include those of detainees draped in Israeli flags.

International law says detainees must not be exposed to unnecessary humiliation or public curiosity, yet human rights experts say the posting of detention footage does just that.

Despite the BBC's previous reporting on Israeli soldiers' social media misconduct, and the military's subsequent promise to act on our findings, a former Israeli soldier, Ori Givati, says he is far from shocked to hear that this activity is continuing.

During our earlier investigation, we noticed - and began looking into - a similar pattern of behaviour in the West Bank, which has experienced a spike in violence over the same period.

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I had a recent conversation on Mastodon with an Israeli American who was complaining about the rampant increase in antisemitism he's experienced, and then the devastation and sense of abandonment he and other Israelis feel... and it was tragic.

It's a country that has been traumatized, but is also now addicted to unhealthy coping strategies. A lot of these people feel constantly victimized, and its a legitimate feeling, but they don't seem aware of the degree to which they've formed a society designed to maintain a permission structure for constant fear and hate.

I feel so badly for these people. But unfortunately, the situation demands that we stop them from continuing this atrocity.

You already posted this comment, Harold.

Can you explain this reference? Everyone keeps mentioning a Harold, and I see that it's getting upvoted a lot, so I think I'm the only one who doesn't know what this means.

Pretty sure this is explanation enough

You're very transparent, Harold.

That's interesting.

I can see why you'd think we're the same person, and why any attempt to prove we're not is going to looks wildly suspicious, but if it helps, here is the conversation I was referencing: https://aleph.land/@andrewrgross/112452794853158836

You can check the time, it's all real. I had that conversation on May 16th, and then commented here on the 17th.

My account on Mastodon and my account here are both months and months old, while Harold appears to have made their account around the time that they posted that comment. I'm not sure what their motivation was, but they posted a few things and got banned from their server.

Anyway, that's not me. I don't think it's a coincidence. I think their comment looks like an inarticulate imitation of mine.

It's pretty weird, and I appreciate you sharing the screen shot. Make of it all what you will.

Israelis are truly worlds biggest crybullies. Throwing a pity party while committing Genocide.

Israel has ethnically cleansed Palestinians at every opportunity. Their terrorist state needs to be dismantled.

It's true, but it doesn't mean I can't feel badly for these people too.

My empathy is not a finite resource.

It depends. Do they feel as bad about what their countrymen are doing to Palestinians? If not, fuck them, they are not people.

PS: F you, Harold.

I think it's fucked up when people create ideological conditions for personhood. The whole point of fundamental human rights is that we afford them to everyone. It's not like it's an accident that we give them to the very worst people. That's kind of the core concept.

If you're opposed to the concept of universal human rights, I don't love it, but I can accept that. I think that's probably a majority opinion, honestly. But I just feel like whenever someone says that a group of people "aren't people", I think we should make sure we're not tip-toeing around that. It should be out on the table.

Oh, I recognize their legal human rights. I just don't morally consider them human when they act...inhuman.

Have you talked with your Palestinian friends too and asked them how they feel? Or have they been offline lately, Harold?