American arrested in Turks and Caicos over ammo found in bag gets suspended sentence of 52 weeks*

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American arrested in Turks and Caicos over ammo found in bag gets suspended sentence of 52 months
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You keep using that word. It isn’t smuggling, it is forgetting a round of ammo in a bag. Your view on this is extreme. There is nuance in the world..

And this is why drug cartels use cute white women as mules - to skate by on "It's for personal use" excuses if they get caught.

Also a really fucking stupid take? It should always be based on the facts of the case, not the color of skin or gender. If a cute white woman is carrying guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo punish away.

Why are you so certain that the people in this case weren't intentionally smuggling ammunition?

Because of the quantity and having a brain.

Then you're naive.

Have you ever been to the range? How much ammo did you use? If you wanted to smuggle and sell ammo into another country for money, how much would you bring? Would you bring your wife and book a vacation stay?

Yea, but I don't have solid evidence either way since I'm not on the ground there - what makes you so certain these people weren't smugglers? What part of this story has you so willing to go to bat for them?

Then you should try reading the article. It describes 4 of the recent cases. In those cases people were not found with guns and had 2, 2, 4, and 20 rounds of ammo respectively.

Go to the gun range once and you’ll understand that’s not smuggling ammunition for criminal use. That’s an oopsie I forgot that was in that bag.

He packed his own contraband in his own bag and brought it to a foreign country.

That’s the definition of smuggling.

No, it isn’t.

The Oxford dictionary definition:

smuggling noun

the illegal movement of goods into or out of a country. "cocaine smuggling has increased alarmingly"

You see how it says “illegal” there? In smuggling cases there has to be this other thing called “intent” for it to have been illegal.

If a Mexican gets some codeine at a Mexican pharmacy, forgets it in their bag, and flies into the USA we don’t pay tax money to imprison them for years. We take it, ban them, and send them back.

Why? Because they are careless, not smugglers.

The law does not universally require "intent", I might not intend to speed in my car or fuck a 17 year old, but if it happens I am still responsible.

You missed the part where I wrote “in smuggling cases”.

ETA: you also listed examples that do require intent… like omg I accidentally fucked a 17 year old.

Or omg my car just drove itself too fast.

What? Think then type.

But why would you ban them, if they didn't do anything illegal?

You basically confirm that it is illegal. Now it's just about the punishment.