Biden sets out new Israeli proposal to end war in Gaza

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Ending the Gaza war: Three phase proposal

PHASE ONE

  • It would begin with a six-week ceasefire, during which the IDF would withdraw from populated areas of Gaza
  • Hamas would release "a number" of hostages - including women, the elderly and the wounded - in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. Some remains of dead Israeli hostages would be returned to their families
  • Palestinian civilians would return to their homes in all areas of Gaza
  • Humanitarian assistance would "surge", with 600 trucks a day entering the strip, and hundreds of thousands of temporary housing units sent by the international community

During that six week period, negotiations mediated by the US and Qatar would continue. If successful, the next part of the plan would begin.

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Israel will reject it and Biden will say: "see, guys? I tried! Vote for me!"

Are you willing to admit you were wrong if Israel already proposed this deal to Hamas through Qatar? This is a garbage situation all around and none of it is helped by sanctimonious assholes on social media pre-judging every action taken before it even has a moment to breathe.

Israel has already given signs of rejecting it.

https://nitter.poast.org/Seamus_Malek/status/1796615894870917475#m

Keep in mind that Hamas had already accepted a ceasefire proposal that Bibi didn't think they would accept and had to make up a whole story about a scapegoated Egyptian staffer changing irrelevant details to explain why Israel was rejecting the peace deal THEY THEMSELVES MADE!

Remember, Bibi is going to jail the moment the war ends for crimes he already committed that have nothing to do with this war. He literally has every reason to keep this war going as long as he can.

helped by sanctimonious assholes on social media pre-judging

That's you. You're the ignorant person here trying to shit on people that actually know what they're talking about.

I sure hope he does go to prison, although I doubt it. Right-wing assholes never go to jail if they get enough power, and I hardly see anyone with the power and willingness to hold him accountable. As with most politicians, it'll have to be their constituency who holds them accountable or they're just the face of something much larger that can't just be thrown into a jail.

You can accuse me of a lot of things and I won't even argue with "sanctimonious asshole", to be honest. I'm absolutely not pre-judging though, because I understand the difficulty and nuance to negotiating international peace deals between diametrically opposed religious states. I'm going to let this new proposal play out and not just start throwing shit everywhere because I'm frustrated, before a single bit of dialogue has even played out. Each proposal is a new opportunity for peace and I would be an utter cunt to go around shitting on every new attempt just because I'm feeling a bit hopeless about it. So no, I reject that "that's me", but those of you who want to watch and discuss complex geopolitical affairs this way, be my guest.

Hamas accepted Israel’s ceasefire offer and Israel refused to go through with it. (Yes, I know Egypt allegedly made changes but that doesn’t change the fact that Netanyahu stonewalled.) Biden had said for weeks this was an excellent offer and that Hamas would be stupid not to take it and Hamas was being unreasonable (even though it was not a fair offer to Palestinians), and Biden went silent and refused to criticize Netanyahu for rejecting a good offer that would return all hostages.

Netanyahu releases statement A statement has just been released from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office.

It says he has authorised the Israeli negotiating team to "present an outline" for achieving the release of all hostages.

However, the statements goes on to say the war in Gaza will not end until all goals - including the "elimination" of Hamas's armed wing and organisational capacities - are achieved.

I t continues: "The exact outline proposed by Israel, including the conditional transition from stage to stage, allows Israel to maintain these principles."

Sounds like they already rejected their own deal

I don't think that's what this means.

In his speech, Biden said that Hamas was no longer capable of another 10/7.

Netanyahu said here and elsewhere that his goals are "elimination of Hamas' military and governmental capabilities" and returning the hostages.

To me, it sounds like they are saying that this plan is being offered because they believe Hamas' military capability has already been destroyed, so it's time to trade peace for hostages.

Israel doesn't care at all what Biden says though. He could say hamas is eliminated by Israeli forces and they'll keep going because the point is land grab not anti terrorism.

You don't stop terrorism by blowing up civilians

Did you know: You can both vote for Biden and protest those actions of his you don't agree with. You should, even.

"please vote for me... NO DON'T LOOK AT THAT GENOCIDE I'M DOING.. just vote pls"