Since I didn't get a response from the other person, perhaps you could explain why Judge Jackson is the sort of SCOTUS justice Trump would have picked.
What does any of that have to do with Judge Jackson? Just explain why Judge Jackson is the sort of SCOTUS justice Trump would have picked since both parties are the same.
What does any of that have to do with Judge Jackson?
We would have more Judge Jacksons on the court if the Dem Senate had played hardball with Republican Presidents. And taking Thomas out of circulation in 1991 would have changed the Bush v Gore decision in 2000, which would have meant President Al Gore seating even more Judge Jacksons in his subsequent terms.
No Thomas means no Bush Jr. No Bush Jr means no gerrymandering greenlit by Ashcroft's DOJ. Which would have promised more state level liberal courts in places like Texas and Wisconsin (ie, more state court Judge Jacksons). Which would have curbed the rise of white nationalism following Obama's election in 2008. No GOP capture of Florida through mass disenfranchisement of black voters. No extended legacy of GOP rule in Georgia, for the same reasons. No War on Immigration in Arizona and Colorado and Texas, forcing those states farther and farther to the right. All of which would have precluded a Trump presidency in 2016.
No Trump means we don't have to worry about who he'd pick for SCOTUS.
That is still not an explanation for why judge Jackson would be the sort of SCOTUS judge Trump would pick if both parties are the same.
Its an explanation for why a judge approved by Joe Biden is going to give us another Trump presidency.
I didn't ask for that explanation.
If you aren't able to explain why Trump would pick a justice like Jackson when both parties are the same, just say so.
I didn’t ask for that explanation.
Because you don't want Joe Biden carrying any culpability for the current 6-3 Conservative Majority.
We've got multiple Republican SCOTUS nominees who took office on his watch. We know what that leads to, because we know the outcome of Bush v Gore. We know what eight years of Bush did to the country and how it led directly to the election of Trump.
So why would four more years of Biden - a man who gave us the courts that gave us Bush and Trump - produce a majority of Judge Jacksons? He appears far better at seating judges like Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, and Alito.
Why can't you just admit you won't give me the explanation I asked for a long time ago?
Why would I want a President who put Thomas on the bench?
Not relevant to what I asked. If you can't answer what I asked, I'm not going to talk to you about anything else, sorry.
A Democrat who concedes to Republican threats will be as likely to put a guy like Thomas up as Trump would. We got lucky with Jackson, but Biden's clearly in a state of deterioration. Very likely we end up with him compromising us down to another Thomas or ACB in his second term, as he and his friends on the Judiciary committee are known to do.
I wish you would just admit you can't answer what I asked.
For the very last time and please just answer and stop moving the goalposts: If the parties are the same, why would Trump have chosen Jackson as a SCOTUS justice?
That's pretty strawman of you. Assuming he's operating in bad faith; how does appointing Judge Jackson stop the ratchet effect? That's what we're talking about here. I happen to think he's operating in good faith, just to his donors instead of his constituency. But the effect is the same, holding the status quo that the GOP sets. Why hasn't Mayorkas purged ICE in an attempt to reform it? Where are the wide ranging investigations of the human rights abuses that were so well reported during the Trump administration? Biden's goal was never to bring things back in line, it was to keep the lights on and keep the money flowing to the donors. Some of whom run private detention centers.
No, we were talking about how the two parties are exactly the same. If they are exactly the same, Trump would have the same reason for picking justice Jackson as Biden. So what is that reason?
I understand that's your straw man. But that's not what the other people in this thread are saying.
That is not my straw man, that is exactly the order of the conversation. I was told both parties are the same, I asked if that was true, what Trump's reason for picking Jackson would be.
No one has come up with an answer.
But one person has tried to argue with me in this thread that Harriet Miers was a feminist and sent me to some Christian website to prove it, so that was amusing.
You know we can just read the thread right?
Can you?
The ratchet effect isn't the same thing as saying they're the same. It's saying the Democrats have no interest and have taken no action in rolling back Republican abuses.
Since I didn't get a response from the other person, perhaps you could explain why Judge Jackson is the sort of SCOTUS justice Trump would have picked.
https://lemmy.world/comment/10420523
What does any of that have to do with Judge Jackson? Just explain why Judge Jackson is the sort of SCOTUS justice Trump would have picked since both parties are the same.
We would have more Judge Jacksons on the court if the Dem Senate had played hardball with Republican Presidents. And taking Thomas out of circulation in 1991 would have changed the Bush v Gore decision in 2000, which would have meant President Al Gore seating even more Judge Jacksons in his subsequent terms.
No Thomas means no Bush Jr. No Bush Jr means no gerrymandering greenlit by Ashcroft's DOJ. Which would have promised more state level liberal courts in places like Texas and Wisconsin (ie, more state court Judge Jacksons). Which would have curbed the rise of white nationalism following Obama's election in 2008. No GOP capture of Florida through mass disenfranchisement of black voters. No extended legacy of GOP rule in Georgia, for the same reasons. No War on Immigration in Arizona and Colorado and Texas, forcing those states farther and farther to the right. All of which would have precluded a Trump presidency in 2016.
No Trump means we don't have to worry about who he'd pick for SCOTUS.
That is still not an explanation for why judge Jackson would be the sort of SCOTUS judge Trump would pick if both parties are the same.
Its an explanation for why a judge approved by Joe Biden is going to give us another Trump presidency.
I didn't ask for that explanation.
If you aren't able to explain why Trump would pick a justice like Jackson when both parties are the same, just say so.
Because you don't want Joe Biden carrying any culpability for the current 6-3 Conservative Majority.
We've got multiple Republican SCOTUS nominees who took office on his watch. We know what that leads to, because we know the outcome of Bush v Gore. We know what eight years of Bush did to the country and how it led directly to the election of Trump.
So why would four more years of Biden - a man who gave us the courts that gave us Bush and Trump - produce a majority of Judge Jacksons? He appears far better at seating judges like Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, and Alito.
Why can't you just admit you won't give me the explanation I asked for a long time ago?
Why would I want a President who put Thomas on the bench?
Not relevant to what I asked. If you can't answer what I asked, I'm not going to talk to you about anything else, sorry.
A Democrat who concedes to Republican threats will be as likely to put a guy like Thomas up as Trump would. We got lucky with Jackson, but Biden's clearly in a state of deterioration. Very likely we end up with him compromising us down to another Thomas or ACB in his second term, as he and his friends on the Judiciary committee are known to do.
I wish you would just admit you can't answer what I asked.
For the very last time and please just answer and stop moving the goalposts: If the parties are the same, why would Trump have chosen Jackson as a SCOTUS justice?
That's pretty strawman of you. Assuming he's operating in bad faith; how does appointing Judge Jackson stop the ratchet effect? That's what we're talking about here. I happen to think he's operating in good faith, just to his donors instead of his constituency. But the effect is the same, holding the status quo that the GOP sets. Why hasn't Mayorkas purged ICE in an attempt to reform it? Where are the wide ranging investigations of the human rights abuses that were so well reported during the Trump administration? Biden's goal was never to bring things back in line, it was to keep the lights on and keep the money flowing to the donors. Some of whom run private detention centers.
No, we were talking about how the two parties are exactly the same. If they are exactly the same, Trump would have the same reason for picking justice Jackson as Biden. So what is that reason?
I understand that's your straw man. But that's not what the other people in this thread are saying.
That is not my straw man, that is exactly the order of the conversation. I was told both parties are the same, I asked if that was true, what Trump's reason for picking Jackson would be.
No one has come up with an answer.
But one person has tried to argue with me in this thread that Harriet Miers was a feminist and sent me to some Christian website to prove it, so that was amusing.
You know we can just read the thread right?
Can you?
The ratchet effect isn't the same thing as saying they're the same. It's saying the Democrats have no interest and have taken no action in rolling back Republican abuses.