I'm using a FP4, and here the signs are reversed. The hardware is working so far, but the software is incredibly buggy and instable.
Add to it the very mediocre hardware (slow, outdated SoC, terrible camera, bad battery life) and it's not a fun phone to use. Especially not at that price point.
You can get a pretty top of the line smartphone for that price, which I'm also not willing to pay for either.
Let's hope EU regulations can make smartphones generally a bit more sustainable.
Yeah, the high price point kinda destroys the repairability aspect for me. I could get a similar phone from Samsung or Google for €200-400 less. For that money I can get the battery/screen replaced multiple times.
I hope, the EU regulation makes repairability mainstream.
If the software is a major issue, why not install a Rom like LineageOS?
Tbh, I am not convinced they run much better than stock.
Also, I do use stuff like banking apps on my phone, and I don't want to completely lose that.
The 4 will also run calyx.
Still no ToF camera driver, but otherwise solid performance without the google bloat
terrible camera
Phone cameras quality does not really depend on hardware these days. It's all software.
Get yourself a hacked Google Camera. Night and Day change.
I did and it is an improvement, but it can't completely fix the bad camera.
I renewed phones late last year and I pondered on getting the FP4, but I was unhappy with the camera and even though it's replaceable it is not upgradeable. I got instead a Pixel 6A and it's a pleasure to use (tolerating all the Google stuff).
I have high expcetations for FP5
I am quite certain you get the better user experience with the Pixel 6A than with the FP4.
Let's see about the FP5. The issue is that FP is just not a large manufacturer, and it shines through.
I agree wholeheartedly. Do you end up checking your e-mails for FP employee responses to the Forum posts?
I did for a while, but I gave up. Both their support and their communications on the forum is almost inexistent.
Yep, on the Forum they're nowhere to be found, usually. I'm the reporter of the screen ghosting issue. Have you tried Support though? They offered me an RMA.
I tried their support a few times. Since the bugs are software-only, an RMA probably wouldn't have fixed anything. They took the bugs, said they stuck them into their backlog, and then didn't do anything about them. The bugs got swapped out for other bugs when Android 12 came around.
The biggest two bugs I had before were that the notification toggles disappeared ~1/day and I could only get them back by repeatedly changing the user on my phone. The other one was that video wouldn't work in split screen.
With Android 12, both of them are fixed, but now my screen turns completely black whenever a new notification appears. Also my mobile data connection disappears ~1/h and only appears again if I manually toggle mobile data. Sometimes when using split screen, the phone gets completely stuck for ~30-60secs. The nav bar also sometimes just disappears. ~1/day the recents button on the navbar loses it's function and requires me to reboot for it to start working again. GPS randomly dies as well and only works again after a reboot. That's especially fun when you are currently using your phone for Google Maps while driving.
The navigation bar disappearing and the mobile data connection needing manual re-enablement affects me too. I don't think anyone has posted about them on the forum yet, though.
If only CalyxOS supported the Google Play Store, I would use that.
I'm using a FP4, and here the signs are reversed. The hardware is working so far, but the software is incredibly buggy and instable.
Add to it the very mediocre hardware (slow, outdated SoC, terrible camera, bad battery life) and it's not a fun phone to use. Especially not at that price point.
You can get a pretty top of the line smartphone for that price, which I'm also not willing to pay for either.
Let's hope EU regulations can make smartphones generally a bit more sustainable.
Yeah, the high price point kinda destroys the repairability aspect for me. I could get a similar phone from Samsung or Google for €200-400 less. For that money I can get the battery/screen replaced multiple times.
I hope, the EU regulation makes repairability mainstream.
If the software is a major issue, why not install a Rom like LineageOS?
Tbh, I am not convinced they run much better than stock.
Also, I do use stuff like banking apps on my phone, and I don't want to completely lose that.
The 4 will also run calyx.
Still no ToF camera driver, but otherwise solid performance without the google bloat
Phone cameras quality does not really depend on hardware these days. It's all software.
Get yourself a hacked Google Camera. Night and Day change.
I did and it is an improvement, but it can't completely fix the bad camera.
I renewed phones late last year and I pondered on getting the FP4, but I was unhappy with the camera and even though it's replaceable it is not upgradeable. I got instead a Pixel 6A and it's a pleasure to use (tolerating all the Google stuff).
I have high expcetations for FP5
I am quite certain you get the better user experience with the Pixel 6A than with the FP4.
Let's see about the FP5. The issue is that FP is just not a large manufacturer, and it shines through.
I agree wholeheartedly. Do you end up checking your e-mails for FP employee responses to the Forum posts?
I did for a while, but I gave up. Both their support and their communications on the forum is almost inexistent.
Yep, on the Forum they're nowhere to be found, usually. I'm the reporter of the screen ghosting issue. Have you tried Support though? They offered me an RMA.
I tried their support a few times. Since the bugs are software-only, an RMA probably wouldn't have fixed anything. They took the bugs, said they stuck them into their backlog, and then didn't do anything about them. The bugs got swapped out for other bugs when Android 12 came around.
The biggest two bugs I had before were that the notification toggles disappeared ~1/day and I could only get them back by repeatedly changing the user on my phone. The other one was that video wouldn't work in split screen.
With Android 12, both of them are fixed, but now my screen turns completely black whenever a new notification appears. Also my mobile data connection disappears ~1/h and only appears again if I manually toggle mobile data. Sometimes when using split screen, the phone gets completely stuck for ~30-60secs. The nav bar also sometimes just disappears. ~1/day the recents button on the navbar loses it's function and requires me to reboot for it to start working again. GPS randomly dies as well and only works again after a reboot. That's especially fun when you are currently using your phone for Google Maps while driving.
The navigation bar disappearing and the mobile data connection needing manual re-enablement affects me too. I don't think anyone has posted about them on the forum yet, though.
If only CalyxOS supported the Google Play Store, I would use that.