Androis uses linux, but that does not make it a Desktop Linux. It's not invalid, just out of scope to this metric. It's pretty simple.
I'm not arguing this part at all, I agree with you.
Honestly whatever Linux Distro takes over will almost certainly be an Android or ChormeOS style bastardization where you can certainly see the lineage but it's so locked down and so far removed from the userland and tooling we expect that the whole point of "year of the Linux desktop" is lost
Yes and no. MacOS is basically the year of the Unix desktop for a while now and it’s still powerful and user friendly. Just fire up a terminal and it’s Unix. The benefit they have is hardware control so stuff just works and no driver hardware issues etc…
I agree. Linux is great when one has the time but not the money.
However for a system that just works - MacOS is one of the best bsd distros of all time esp on arm.
Sadly MacOS also comes with the downfalls of a closed and proprietary ecosystem.
@const_void
Have you used Linux lately? It really doesn't take any more time than anything else. @FunkyClown
Yes, I have yet to have a zero-config experience even on vertical (but open) platforms like RasberryPi. What has been your experience?
GPU, Sound, WiFi Day 0 / 1 / 365 are not yet on par with MacOS or Win11, for me, anyway.
For me, it is important to recognize there is a larger time investment, otherwise how does it get better?
@const_void
Certainly, let's look for more ways to improve, but I've not had a need to fiddle with hardware configs in a while.
I count 2 personal laptops, a desktop, and a couple RasPis that just worked for me. One laptop had suspend issues in Windows that went away with Linux, which surprised the hell out of me.
My work laptop (Windows 11) needed GPU drivers reinstalled and increasingly acts up with docking and suspend.
Maybe I've lucked into good hardware or something.
I have on servers as I run my own lemmy server. I do like Linux desktop but macOS just works for my work and home laptop.
@FunkyClown Use what you like! I'm not here to proselytize.
Androis uses linux, but that does not make it a Desktop Linux. It's not invalid, just out of scope to this metric. It's pretty simple.
I'm not arguing this part at all, I agree with you.
Honestly whatever Linux Distro takes over will almost certainly be an Android or ChormeOS style bastardization where you can certainly see the lineage but it's so locked down and so far removed from the userland and tooling we expect that the whole point of "year of the Linux desktop" is lost
Yes and no. MacOS is basically the year of the Unix desktop for a while now and it’s still powerful and user friendly. Just fire up a terminal and it’s Unix. The benefit they have is hardware control so stuff just works and no driver hardware issues etc…
I agree. Linux is great when one has the time but not the money.
However for a system that just works - MacOS is one of the best bsd distros of all time esp on arm.
Sadly MacOS also comes with the downfalls of a closed and proprietary ecosystem.
@const_void
Have you used Linux lately? It really doesn't take any more time than anything else.
@FunkyClown
Yes, I have yet to have a zero-config experience even on vertical (but open) platforms like RasberryPi. What has been your experience?
GPU, Sound, WiFi Day 0 / 1 / 365 are not yet on par with MacOS or Win11, for me, anyway.
For me, it is important to recognize there is a larger time investment, otherwise how does it get better?
@const_void
Certainly, let's look for more ways to improve, but I've not had a need to fiddle with hardware configs in a while.
I count 2 personal laptops, a desktop, and a couple RasPis that just worked for me. One laptop had suspend issues in Windows that went away with Linux, which surprised the hell out of me.
My work laptop (Windows 11) needed GPU drivers reinstalled and increasingly acts up with docking and suspend.
Maybe I've lucked into good hardware or something.
I have on servers as I run my own lemmy server. I do like Linux desktop but macOS just works for my work and home laptop.
@FunkyClown Use what you like! I'm not here to proselytize.