Tesla in self-drive mode slams into police car in Orange County

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Tesla in self-drive mode slams into police car in Orange County
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A Tesla was in its self-driving mode when it crashed into a parked patrol vehicle responding to a fatal crash in Orange County Thursday morning, police said. 

The officer was on traffic control duty blocking Orangethorpe Avenue in Fullerton for an investigation into a suspected DUI crash that left a motorcyclist dead around 9 p.m. Wednesday when his vehicle was struck.

A Fullerton Police Department spokesperson said the officer was standing outside his vehicle around midnight when he saw a Tesla driving in his direction and not slowing down.

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Despite what the average internet user seems to think, not all Teslas even have the computer capable of Full Self Driving installed.

Uh.

http://tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware The Tesla Team, October 19, 2016

Be sure to read the part where it says that as of today, ALL Tesla cars will have the hardware needed for full self-driving at a safety level SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER than that of a human driver.

Also, can people cut the bullshit, Elon is on video suggesting year after year that FSD will take you hundreds of miles without a single intervention.

How does that make sense, that something that performs SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER than a human driver needs constant supervision by the inferior driver? Elon sold FSD as a magical autopilot since 2016, adding "Supervised" to the label like 3 months ago doesn't suddenly put the blame on the people who believed the lie.

You seem to have missed the simple fact that there are cars produced prior to that. And the fact that the hardware announced there also wasn't enough on its own. There were additional changes in 2019 to a newer computer necessary for FSD. My 2018 Model 3 has that hardware, but I cannot get FSD without a computer upgrade. Not to mention even older vehicles that can't even accept the new computer hardware.

So yeah, not ALL Teslas in the road are capable of FSD.

Dude, talk about missing the point. I wasn't the one who claimed all Teslas after 2016 were capable of Autopilot. ELON MUSK made that claim.. you aren't saying I'm Elon, right, because that's pretty insulting.

Elon made the claim. He called his product Autopilot and then Full Self Driving. He got up on stage and released videos claiming the cars could drive hundreds of miles without an intervention. He released faked videos. He's truly a con man for the ages.

Dude, no, you're trying to change the point. My claim wasn't time-specific, your link has nothing to do with the actual conversation in this comment thread. I said that the average person thinks ALL Teslas are capable of FSD, and that is factually incorrect, there are Teslas on the road that cannot do FSD,

Your link is about cars made after X date, you're changing the conversation to fit the narrative you actually want. Even if we go by that date though, that's what they thought at the time, it was later determined that yet another computer upgrade would actually be required, hence the 2019 date for actual FSD compatibility as it was rolled out to the closed public beta. Vehicles made in that middle ground get the computer upgrade for free if the owner purchases FSD.

My car, made in 2018, cannot do FSD without a computer upgrade, so it is not capable of FSD as is despite being made after 2016. The rest of the hardware is compatible but it needs a newer brain. Some vehicles older than mine (older Model S/X) aren't even able to get an upgraded computer and will NEVER be FSD capable. So factually, not ALL Teslas on the road can do FSD. End of conversation.

He called his product Autopilot and then Full Self Driving. Autopilot and Full Self Driving are two different systems, and always have been. I get that you want them to be the same, but they aren't. The vehicle makes it clear they aren't the same in the settings, the website's purchase pages over the years have shown the differences, and the support pages make it clear these are different, they are referenced as different products all the time. While Autopilot now comes on every Tesla as standard with no additional purchase, FSD is an additional cost and always has been.

you aren’t saying I’m Elon, right, because that’s pretty insulting. I never claimed you were Elon, no idea where you seemed to get that idea. But at this point it's clear you have some sort of vendetta and are incapable of actually following the conversation due to your bias, so I'll leave it here. Have a good day.