Vladimir Putin issues fresh demands to Ukraine to end war
Vladimir Putin has demanded that Kyiv cede more land, withdraw troops deeper inside its own country, and drop its Nato bid in order for him to end Russia’s war in Ukraine.
Putin’s fresh ceasefire demands were issued as envoys from more than 90 countries, including Ukraine, convene in Switzerland this weekend to discuss a western-led peace plan. Russia is not invited to the conference and the president’s remarks on Friday were likely to have been timed as a spoiler to that summit.
Speaking with diplomats at the Russian foreign ministry, Putin publicly updated his terms for ending the war in Ukraine for the first time since he launched a full-scale invasion in February 2022, when he demanded regime change in Kyiv and the country’s “demilitarisation”.
The US defence secretary, Lloyd Austin, said Putin was in “no position” to make demands on Ukraine and could end the war he had started “today if he chose to do that.”
The reality is that both sides are laying out unrealistic terms for surrender right now.... and that's fine. The start of a negotiation is always to start with a stated position and go from there. This war will end at the negotiation table... at least we hope it does becuase unconditional surrender won't come from Russia, but it could come from Ukraine.
The real question is have both sides suffered enough for a negotiated end to this war? Look, it sucks, but that's the truth of it. It would be good to see an end to the fighting and dying in Ukraine. Wars suck. The only side winning in this war is the US. They/we spend a pittance of money and watch Russia burn their future generation, military reputation, and global standing to the ground. That's the #2 political opponent the US has in the world, and it's acting as a great example for to show China (the #1) why it should behave itself over Taiwan. Win win!
But wars suck. It's easy to sit on the sidelines, but there a lots of people fighting and dying over there who have nothing to do with make the decisions for war. Yes Putin's demands are ridiculous, but so are Ukraine's. That's fine. Put them in a room and hopefully they can figure out way to end the killing that's in between the two.
What are Ukraine's demands for surrender?
Mainly 100% removal from Ukraine (not unreasonable, but also not going happen without Ukraine doing much better on offense) and a shit ton of reparations for all the damage done and people killed (this is never going to happen).
IMHO The most likely scenario is Russia keeps 50 to 80% on land they've already captured and Ukraine agrees not to join NATO and the war stops. Keep in mind much of the land that they're currently fighting over will be useless for a generation due to all the mines and shells shot into it. (Maybe "useless" is too strong, but it will take a lot of work to make it safe for living and farming.)
'Member when Ukraine signed a treaty with Russia that if they surrender all nuclear weapons, Russia would never attack them?