Biden's Middle East Policy Is Horrific. Trump's Would Be Even Worse

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Rumors are that America is a Democracy where more than two parties are allowed to run. Though many appear to disagree with that notion.

It is, and they are. They’ve also never gotten a single Electoral College vote in the history of our nation. They have, however, helped several Republicans get elected over the years.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/senior_lawyers/resources/experience/2024-january-february/are-thirdparty-candidates-always-spoilers/

They also helped Bill Clinton get elected, so that's nice.

They rarely work in Democrat’s favor. Jill Stein alone has siphoned off Democratic votes in the last five elections. Maybe that’s why Putin keeps publicizing her.

https://www.thirdway.org/memo/red-alert-putin-puppet-jill-stein-and-her-russia-friendly-agenda

Oh, totally. But that goofy big-eared Texan with the charts and "can ah finish" helped Clinton.

Maybe Democrats need to do something like that.

There’s some hope that RFK Jr. will take more votes from Trump than Biden, but there’s too much at stake in this election to be holding our breath.

Perot was a hell of a character though. He was all over Mad magazine during that election.

Jill Stein has not been a candidate for 5 elections.

Green candidates:

2020 - Howie Hawkins - 407,068 votes nationally. 0.26%

2016 - Jill Stein - 1,457,218 - 1.07%

2012 - Jill Stein - 469,627 - 0.36%

2008 - Cynthia McKinney - 161,797 - 0.12%

2004 - David Cobb - 119,859 - 0.10%

2000 - Ralph Nader - 2,882,955 - 2.74%

Democrats blame the Greens.

Republicans blame Libertarians.

Instead of trying to blame alternatives for losing the election they could try to win over voters. But they don't seem very interested in that. Israel is a lot more appealing. And hey, even if the Democrats lose they'll have made israel very happy so they can be sure to get more AIPAC "donations" next elections.

This election isn’t about picking favorites. We are all fully aware that Trump will cause massive devastation to our nation as well as allow Putin, Xi, and Netanyahu to take what they want without resistance. Abstaining or voting third-party is refusing to stand in Trump’s way.

Biden is already giving away America to Netanyahu. If you are concerned about foreign actors I would suggest being concerned about AIPAC.

We agree that Biden isn’t great for Palestine, but he is absolutely better than Trump.

Trump noted, “They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

“And the other thing is I hate, they put out tapes all the time. Every night, they’re releasing tapes of a building falling down. They shouldn’t be releasing tapes like that. They’re doing, that’s why they’re losing the PR war. They, Israel is absolutely losing the PR war,” Trump said.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html

Trump also fully supports Israel’s expansion. He repealed the law preventing Israeli settlements on Palestinian land that Biden has since reinstated.

Netanyahu was so pleased, he named a settlement after him.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48656431

At least post the full quote

What I said very plainly is get it over with, and let’s get back to peace and stop killing people. And that’s a very simple statement. Get it over with. They’ve got to finish what they finish. They have to get it done. Get it over with, and get it over with fast, because we have to, you have to get back to normalcy and peace,” Trump told The Hugh Hewitt Show.

It's really sad Democrats have to resort to out of context quoting like Republicans these days. But when a party runs on lies and populism it's what you gotta do I guess.

That’s additional and superfluous. It does not in any way negate the initial message.

Even with your classic “taking it out of context” Trump defense, this is indefensible.

let’s get back to peace and stop killing people.

because we have to, you have to get back to normalcy and peace,” Trump told The Hugh Hewitt Show.

Did you read it?

You can find many Trump quotes praising Netanyahu and other crazy shit. This is not the statement you want to pick out.

I read that along with “finishing what they started” and “without recording everything” to mean, “eradicate Palestine without documentation so you aren’t held accountable, and restore peace to Israel.”

Just try reading it once more and pretend Joe Biden said it. This time what does it say?

If Biden said that I would be certain he’s in support of Palestinian genocide.