I mean, the man clearly had some mental illness going on. I dont think it’s all well thought out
As easy as it would be to dismiss a lot of people like this as having mental illnesses, he just sounds like you're typical conspiracy believing, far right, Trump supporter. The mental illness may have come into play when he actually decided to act on it, but make no mistake, many, many others are believing and repeating the same rhetoric and just not demented enough to act (yet), and they don't deserve the easy out of "mental illness."
I look at it the other way: right-wing conspiracy theories pander to textbook mental illness. They're more susceptible to such bullshit and thus it's like a magnet that attracts these deranged individuals.
One way or another I am personally convinced a large chunk of dyed-in-the-wool Trump supporters are not of mentally sound mind.
Drugs, head injuries, lead exposure, etc. You look at the average attendee of a Trump rally and they do not look physically healthy from the outset.
That's fair. It fits with their MO of taking advantage of those with disabilities or in already dire situations
He said he’s the only person left who can save the country… he talked about analyzing the White House grounds and imagined up a “weak point” in the security… this is not a typical thought pattern
It does sound crazy, but some of their echo chambers have spent YEARS repeating two conflicting messages 1) we need to use violence to "fix" the country and 2) anyone who actually tries to organize any activity is an FBI member trying to arrest people. It's true that a sane person still wouldn't try to go kill politicians by themselves, but it's no surprise to me that some of those members eventually do come to the "I am the only person who can fix this" conclusion.
Blow my mind how bad some of you are at identifying textbook psychosis
Diagnosing people you've never met is generally a bad idea.
I think what we're getting at is there is a very fine line right now between a far right conspiracy theorist that's in too deep (think QAnon) and full blown psychosis. The minor difference being one is caused by indoctrination while the other is actual mental illness.
And while this case may be due to mental illness, I was simply saying that we shouldn't allow the other cases the easy out excuse of a mental illness as they need to be held accountable. Obviously this man will be held accountable but a mental illness lessens that by some degree.
True, but still only a few steps up from "someone just needs to put a bullet in Biden" which is a not too uncommon of a phrase in red districts.
He don’t sound sane, but from what little US politic I catch in news it’s pretty common far up into your law and political system. Maybe all the way to the top.
I believe your doing yourself a disfavour by assuming he’s criminally insane
I’m not so sure. Dude had a grappling hook. That’s textbook preparedness. /s
I mean, the man clearly had some mental illness going on. I dont think it’s all well thought out
As easy as it would be to dismiss a lot of people like this as having mental illnesses, he just sounds like you're typical conspiracy believing, far right, Trump supporter. The mental illness may have come into play when he actually decided to act on it, but make no mistake, many, many others are believing and repeating the same rhetoric and just not demented enough to act (yet), and they don't deserve the easy out of "mental illness."
I look at it the other way: right-wing conspiracy theories pander to textbook mental illness. They're more susceptible to such bullshit and thus it's like a magnet that attracts these deranged individuals.
One way or another I am personally convinced a large chunk of dyed-in-the-wool Trump supporters are not of mentally sound mind.
Drugs, head injuries, lead exposure, etc. You look at the average attendee of a Trump rally and they do not look physically healthy from the outset.
That's fair. It fits with their MO of taking advantage of those with disabilities or in already dire situations
He said he’s the only person left who can save the country… he talked about analyzing the White House grounds and imagined up a “weak point” in the security… this is not a typical thought pattern
It does sound crazy, but some of their echo chambers have spent YEARS repeating two conflicting messages 1) we need to use violence to "fix" the country and 2) anyone who actually tries to organize any activity is an FBI member trying to arrest people. It's true that a sane person still wouldn't try to go kill politicians by themselves, but it's no surprise to me that some of those members eventually do come to the "I am the only person who can fix this" conclusion.
Blow my mind how bad some of you are at identifying textbook psychosis
Diagnosing people you've never met is generally a bad idea.
I think what we're getting at is there is a very fine line right now between a far right conspiracy theorist that's in too deep (think QAnon) and full blown psychosis. The minor difference being one is caused by indoctrination while the other is actual mental illness.
And while this case may be due to mental illness, I was simply saying that we shouldn't allow the other cases the easy out excuse of a mental illness as they need to be held accountable. Obviously this man will be held accountable but a mental illness lessens that by some degree.
True, but still only a few steps up from "someone just needs to put a bullet in Biden" which is a not too uncommon of a phrase in red districts.
He don’t sound sane, but from what little US politic I catch in news it’s pretty common far up into your law and political system. Maybe all the way to the top.
I believe your doing yourself a disfavour by assuming he’s criminally insane
I’m not so sure. Dude had a grappling hook. That’s textbook preparedness. /s