Biden administration moves toward allowing American military contractors to deploy to Ukraine

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The Biden administration is moving toward lifting a de facto ban on American military contractors deploying to Ukraine, four US officials familiar with the matter told CNN, to help the country’s military maintain and repair US-provided weapons systems.

The change would mark another significant shift in the Biden administration’s Ukraine policy, as the US looks for ways to give Ukraine’s military an upper hand against Russia.

The policy is still being worked on by administration officials and has not received final sign-off yet from President Joe Biden, officials said.

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The same for defending Poland against Hitler...

But the US didn't prevent Hitler from invading Poland.

I support the international community coming together to help defend weaker nations from stronger nations with imperialist ambitions, but I don't support the US involving ourselves in conflicts on other continents and saying that we are doing so for national security.

But the US didn’t prevent Hitler from invading Poland.

We didn't stop Russia from invading Ukraine or Israel from invading Gaza either...

but I don’t support the US involving ourselves in conflicts on other continents and saying that we are doing so for national security.

Exactly what the pro-nazi Americans said during WW2...

Seriously.

Exactly what the pro-nazi Americans said during WW2...

Many more than just pro-nazi Americans were against declaring war on Germany, before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. In May of 1940, Gallup conducted the following poll:

Do you think the United States should declare war on Germany and send our army and navy abroad to fight?

93% said 'No' source

After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, however, Gallup conducted another poll:

Should President Roosevelt have declared war on Germany, as well as on Japan?

91% said 'Yes' (same source as above)

Nazi lovers within US are the elites... their voting is minor... their power was huge.

You are wither disingenuous or need to get educated on the time period

You might want to look at your own source. Polls before and after that one said something different. That suggests that particular poll was an outlier.

I compared those two polls because they asked specifically about declaring war on Germany. The other polls you're referring to ask less direct questions, such as:

Which of these two things do you think is the more important for the United States to try to do–to keep out of war ourselves or to help England win, even at the risk of getting into the war?

This question, which was asked multiple times between May of 1940 and December of 1941, specifically asks if we should help England even if it risks war, which is different than asking a yes or no question about declaring war on Germany. I acknowledge that responses shifted from 61% saying 'keep out' and 35% saying 'help' in June 1940, to 68% saying 'help' and 28% saying 'keep out" by November 1941, but 'help' is not necessarily the same thing as 'declare war and send troops.' Also, Germany had already invaded Poland, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and France by the time that June 1940 poll was conducted in which 61% of respondents said 'keep out.'

What do you think they meant by 'help' then?

I don't know, it's not specified, nor do I know what every single respondent interpreted 'help' to mean.

It sure sounded like you knew when you pushed it as some authoritative poll about how everyone in the U.S. felt before Pearl Harbor.

I never claimed that any poll authoritatively proved "how everyone in the U.S. felt before Pearl Harbor."