This gay veteran spent 2 years in jail because he had sex. He can finally get a pardon.

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What a ridiculous thing to say. Biden doesn't have a plan to put all the migrants into concentration camps or to suppress queer people or anything else in Project 2025's list of goals, which Trump will implement.

So either you are not aware of Project 2025 and how it will lead to another genocide, possibly more than one, or you only care about one genocide.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Biden doesn’t have a plan to put all the migrants into concentration camps

he doesn't need a plan; he's currently doubling down on trump's plan.

or to suppress queer people or anything else in Project 2025’s list of goals, which Trump will implement.

biden has advocated for this his entire career and has only made token gestures otherwise to get votes; hyperbolic arguments are moot when you've already survived them.

So either you are not aware of Project 2025 and how it will lead to another genocide, possibly more than one, or you only care about one genocide.

they don't have enough time to catch up to biden's level of enabling genocides before the next election. also most of the other genocides have already been committed so it makes sense to care about the active ones.

Sorry... most of the genocides have already been committed? Migrants have been rounded up and forcibly deported en masse? Trans people have been forced to go underground? Queer people have been erased from history?

That's what you don't mind happening apparently.

Sorry… most of the genocides have already been committed?

that biden enabled: yes

Migrants have been rounded up and forcibly deported en masse?

biden is doing this right now

Trans people have been forced to go underground? Queer people have been erased from history?

biden has advocated doing this for decades and his token gestures have only served to give bigots legal protection for their bigotry.

That’s what you don’t mind happening apparently.

that's why i don't want to see more by voting for a person with a decades long track record of doing so.

Biden is doing nothing of the sort and Biden is not doing that to queer people. You're just lying to provide cover for Trump now.

the immigration thing is literally in the news right now.

doing anything negative to queer people would make him lose votes with the democratic base, so he doesn't; just like he's done in the past.

i will not vote for trump

Sorry... you're arguing that doing nothing to hurt queer people because the base doesn't want him to is fascism now?

sexual liberation and identity has fallen in and out of favor in american hegemony before and it will happen again; go ahead and keep moving that goal post.

I don't have to move a goalpost between 'genocide' and 'not genocide.' All you're saying to me here is that the queer genocide candidate that will also support the Palestinian genocide is fine, but the one not participating in a genocide of queer people is bad.

... All you’re saying to me here is that the queer genocide candidate that will also support the Palestinian genocide is fine, but the one not participating in a genocide of queer people is bad.

I'm not supporting either candidate and there is no queer genocide in the United States nor will there be; speaking in hyperbole makes you seem unhinged and I want to trade ideas w someone who speaks in facts.

The genocide has already begun. And not by Biden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020s_anti-LGBT_movement_in_the_United_States#Anti-trans_laws

I'm sure you're aware of those laws being passed.

Again, it's just not a genocide that seems to bother you.

Those laws all suck and they're along the same vein as the laws that Biden had voted for and supported in the past (ie doma, 10450, dadt).

The definition of genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular group with the aim of destroying that group; and nothing you have shared matches that description.

The definition of genocide is not that simple. If it were, you must think Palestinian genocide started in 2023. I hope you don't. That would also suggest that the Trail of Tears was not a genocide. I also hope you are not going to make that argument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

And you already said Biden won't do anything to oppress queer people because the base doesn't want him to. So you are saying that not committing genocide is the same as committing genocide while denying genocide. Excellent job. I'm not sure why you won't admit that queer genocide is just not that big a deal to you because that's what you keep dancing around.

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