Undecided voter focus group leans toward Trump after debate

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All undecided voters in a U.S. swing states focus group hosted by pollster Frank Luntz said President Biden should be replaced as the Democratic nominee after watching his first presidential debate against former President Trump.

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That'll never happen. But I think you're right. The instant goodwill would be enormous.

Have they even bothered with the next "rising star" at all?

They keep shooting their rising stars in the face because they want to remain Republican-lite

Man I've never seen media like this. I've watched:

  • 2 different NYT podcasts
  • Jon Stewart's comments
  • Kari Couric's discussion.
  • NPR's post-debate
  • Washington Week's round-table, led by The Atlantic editor-in-chief
  • Pod Save America (former Obama/Biden staffers)
  • Silver's analysis.

... And the sentiment behind Biden stepping down is vast. Talk behind closed-doors is that US House Democrats are extremely worried about their races given downballot effect.

I think it must be done or I'd absolutely bet on Trump winning in November, sadly.

And sadly, the campaign response to this sentiment is not inspiring a lot of faith in their judgment. This after the NYT Editorial Board called on him to step aside:

“The last time Joe Biden lost the New York Times editorial board’s endorsement it turned out pretty well for him,” Biden campaign co-chair Cedric L. Richmond said in a statement.

Does he think that "LOL! Fuck you!" is the correct response here? The chorus of people in every corner of the country calling for him to step aside is deafening, and all he can muster is a Trump-style clapback?

Furthermore, at this point I'm having a hard time envisioning a scenario where asking the incumbent to drop out would be more justified. Like, how bad would it actually have to get for the party to admit, "hey guys, this isn't fixable, time for Plan B"? Incumbency advantage is huge, but it's certainly not all-powerful.

Yeah agrees that is pure hubris and completely unfounded confidence, downplaying what is at stake in this election. We're fucked.

I'm usually wrong about important things, so I'm going to stick with it'll never happen lol

Have they even bothered with the next “rising star” at all?

They haven't found one. It's like no one gets into politics to change nothing anymore.

True. I wouldn't be a politician if you begged me. I've worked for one before. It's a nightmare.

It's also a huge problem, since most people won't do it either.

I think you misunderstand me. Let me clarify.

Democrats haven't found someone who they want to be their next standard bearer because no one gets into politics because they want to change nothing anymore.

Do you mean because they don't want to change anything anymore?

Your wording is very strange, sorry.

I mean the party only wants people who don't want to change anything at all except for the worse, just like their Republican buddies, yes.

Well, I commend you on learning English as a second language. But your statement is shortsighted.

My statement is based on decades of watching Democrats not change shit and capitulating to Republicans.

Right right. I too like to ignore bills that have been passed and who passed them 🙄