Gaetz Tells Bolling Russia Would Be Better NATO Member Than Ukraine: ‘Probably Provides More Benefit Long-Term’

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Gaetz Tells Bolling Russia Would Be Better NATO Member Than Ukraine: ‘Probably Provides More Benefit Long-Term’
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I wasn't aware that I needed to know all of the language politics to talk about an issue. I'm well aware of the situation. Using a phrase I didn't know was contentious doesn't mean I don't know anything.

If you're being honest here you should know that the way you are speaking about these topics is very Russocentric. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but it makes me wonder about your news diet. I understand why people think you might be acting in bad faith.

I appreciate your good faith approach. I can see how what I'm saying could be seen that way, and I wish more people would approach these conversations the way you did instead of how the other folks below have so they could get the perspective.

To use good guy bad guy terms, Russia is the bad guy in this war. The good guys are the Ukrainians. However, that doesn't mean NATO supplying the good guys also makes them the good guys; it's a convergence of interests. I'm trying to get people to stop seeing Russia as the continuation of the USSR, because they aren't. The USSR no longer exists, and the Russian Federation is a different country with a different economy and different interests. Trying to conflate them is like apples and oranges: it can be done, but it's not helpful.

Now you know. Be serious or stay quiet.

Pedantry over the use of the word "the" is the most bullshit, liberal shit I think I've seen all week. Are you being serious? We need to start referring to this country as United States because it doesn't belong to anyone, right? Should we ditch that old method of referring to the Puerto Rico which implied it was independent? What use is the word 'the' if English articles are policed in the manner you're trying to do?

You should probably just have stayed in school and maybe you'd have covered this.

Oh got it, you aren't a serious person. That's good to know. I have a bachelor's degree in computer science, but whatever. Why don't you enlighten me then?

I'm not your dad or your teacher. Enlighten yourself. You can look this up and learn all about why nobody outside of Russian nationalists say "the Ukraine" anymore.