If dogs were raised in these conditions, people would be outraged (see korea, china, puppy mills, etc.) It’s a bit hypocritical, don’t you think?
you can see this is just an appeal to emotion, right?
I am pointing out a dichotomy. I am appealing to your sense of logic. Why do you feel emotionally attached to dogs? Are they smarter than cows? Do they feel more or less? Is being cruel to a dog worse than being cruel to another animal?
By your logic, dog meat farms are fine -- amoral. The cruelty does not matter because it's inherent.
By your logic, dog meat farms are fine – amoral. The cruelty does not matter because it is inherent.
not quite but very close. the suffering is not cruelty because it is inherent, and suffering alone does not change the morality.
To willingly inflict unnecessary suffering on sentient beings is cruelty. This is a semantic argument that ignores reality
This is a semantic argument that ignores reality
no, it's not. but this is a thought terminating cliche
You are literally arguing the definition of the word "cruelty" rather than dealing with the substance. I appreciate the engagement, but this is where I'll stop. I hope you consider the conflicts in your worldview and work toward improving the world for yourself and the beings that inhabit it.
I hope you consider the conflicts in your worldview and work toward improving the world for yourself and the beings that inhabit it.
YOU, TOO
if cruelty is what is wrong, we must agree on a definition.
what is the bar for necessity? you are introducing an ambiguity here.
you can see this is just an appeal to emotion, right?
I am pointing out a dichotomy. I am appealing to your sense of logic. Why do you feel emotionally attached to dogs? Are they smarter than cows? Do they feel more or less? Is being cruel to a dog worse than being cruel to another animal?
By your logic, dog meat farms are fine -- amoral. The cruelty does not matter because it's inherent.
not quite but very close. the suffering is not cruelty because it is inherent, and suffering alone does not change the morality.
To willingly inflict unnecessary suffering on sentient beings is cruelty. This is a semantic argument that ignores reality
no, it's not. but this is a thought terminating cliche
You are literally arguing the definition of the word "cruelty" rather than dealing with the substance. I appreciate the engagement, but this is where I'll stop. I hope you consider the conflicts in your worldview and work toward improving the world for yourself and the beings that inhabit it.
YOU, TOO
if cruelty is what is wrong, we must agree on a definition.
what is the bar for necessity? you are introducing an ambiguity here.
You do not need meat to survive
why should survival be the bar?
you don't know what I need