Russia’s RT network working directly with Kremlin to spread disinformation, U.S. says
The United States on September 13 said the Russian news outlet RT is taking orders directly from the Kremlin and working with Russian military intelligence to spread disinformation around the world to undermine democracies.
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the United States has gathered new evidence that exposes cooperation between RT and four other subsidiaries of the Rossia Segodnya media group, and it intends to warn other countries of the threat of the disinformation.
In addition to RT, Rossia Segodnya operates RIA Novosti, TV-Novosti, Ruptly, and Sputnik, but the announcement on September 13 focused largely on RT. The outlet, formerly known as Russia Today, has previously been sanctioned for its work to allegedly spread Kremlin propaganda and disinformation.
I think your either avoiding what I'm saying or misunderstanding. This whole conversation is based on USA accusing Russia. Just like your axe murderer accusing another murderer. The whole point is when your a psychotic genocider, your opinions and statements should be rightfully ignored.
Ah, I think we get to the crux of the matter, you seem not to perceive any innocents being harmed. You perhaps see the US as a single evil entity, and not a collection of disagreeing people living on a chunk of land.
Not if we care about truth vs falsehood, objective fact vs made up things, and an understandable world we can all fairly discuss. Even an axe murderer should be allowed to testify in his own defence. What if he is merely accused of axe murder, and the evidence has been fabricated and planted by corrupt police?
Well unfortunately there are no international courts of law that USA would submit to. The only one, the ICC, they have literally threatened to invade if they did any kind of investigation into the GENOCIDAL CRIMES of the USA. So your argument that a court should prove it is moot since USA would nuke the court. Which is why I also find it hilarious that USA talks about rule of law when they actively threaten to wipe Brussels off the face of the earth.
*Edit: Oh man even Harvard is mocking them for that.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/ksikkink/blog/%E2%80%9Cinvade-hague%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%9Csupport-icc%E2%80%9D-america%E2%80%99s-shifting-stance-international-criminal-court
Also, I'm not talking about USA as in it's people, I'm talking about the US government. Sorry I did not make that clear. After all, it's not Joe Schmo talking about RT spreading propaganda.
Eh, don't believe everything our more asshole legislators say. With a little luck they'll get thrown out over the next decade for supporting Trump, going down with the sinking ship.
For better or for worse, they can say whatever they want. Even that Haitians are eating people's pets and shit. lol It's just bluster from small-dicked people compensating for their fear and insecurity, trying to gin up support from the fascist wing.
It's not what they said. It's an actual bill. We nicknamed it the Invade Hague act. We literally have a law that says we will kill Europeans if they investigate our war crimes such as murdering children. Even the Australians recently took away medals for the horrible war crimes they committed.
Oh, that one. We tried to repeal it in 2022, we just need a few more votes and we can strike it from the books. Neocons gonna neocon, GWB was a dick.
The fact that the US can't repeal a horrifying violation of international law is well... I think we've made a full circle. When the US says ANYTHING we shouldn't believe them and should doubt them.
I think we got off on the wrong foot. My statement wasn't actually about Russia, it was about the US and how horrible they are and how the world really needs to think twice before agreeing to anything USA says.
Yes, I believe I understand you now. My focus is on doing what I can while standing with my loved ones, who are all also Americans, of the less crazy variety.
But unfortunately the US government has proven your vote doesn't matter. Especially for foreign policies like not genociding people. Who do you vote for to force a cease fire?
Force a cease fire? Nobody, we'd have to threaten Netanyahu with military force to accomplish that, which would be political suicide with the American public.
Best you could get is divestment utilizing our law against supplying arms to war criminals, that would be unpopular with a lot of Americans, but we probably have enough support to make it happen since it's less extreme.
Problem is Netanyahu could just cut off the last remaining food aid into Gaza. They're already on the brink, they'd starve very shortly, while he makes up some bullshit about "starving out hamas" to the cheers of his crazy right wingers. He doesn't need rockets to do that. Hezbollah could retaliate, but so what? Netanyahu doesn't give a rats ass about his own people, he doesn't care if a few thousand die in rocket attacks if it gets him Gaza. Hezbollah can't invade, even without advanced arms, the IDF numbers about 300k according to reports, that's a lot of soldiers.
So we seemed to think we needed to work with the asshole, let him use us so we can exert pressure. Except pressure isn't proving to be enough.
Personally I'm leaning towards withdrawing from the ME and leaving them all to whatever fate has in store for them. See if the UN can pass economic sanctions. That would also be very harmful for a politician though, since AIPAC would throw all their lobbying money at that politician's opponent. They have a lot of lobbying power.
It's a really shitty situation, overall.
That's sort of besides my point. And yes, the situation is wildly complicated and there are no easy answers.
What I was pointing out is simply for many policies there are actually no options. Such as wanting a cease fire. But this could go on with others like not wanting tariffs or lowering the military budget etc... Particularly for foreign policies both Democrats and Republicans are pretty much exactly the same.
Yea for a lot of things that's true.
That's all I was pointing out. And just wanted to add I think your right we should just leave ME. We have done nothing but destroy those people. There's even a great movie about it. Charlie Wilson's war. What ever human rights reasoning or freedom excuse always ends in massacre's there. We should realize we are just a destabilizing force and leave. We saw China build a bridge between Saudi and Iran. We said it wouldn't last, it did. Thus, perhaps we simply need to learn our lesson.
That's actually a decent and well -thought possibility, thanks. I'm sorry I missed that earlier, and am interested in hearing any rebuttals or variations.