Democrats suspect Netanyahu attempting to tilt Trump-Harris race

jeffw@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.world – 470 points –
thehill.com
119

You are viewing a single comment

By what definition

Wiki

Genocide is violence that targets individuals because of their membership of a group and aims at the destruction of a people.[a][2]

Dictionary

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

Cambridge dictionary

genocide noun [ C or U ] UK /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ US /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ Add to word list the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods:

So by what definition do you add ‘land’.

Cases of genocide brought before the ICJ aren't based on Merriam-Webster, or the Cambridge Dictionary...

They use ratified international agreements, such as the CPPCG

After you said ‘plain text definition’. Now you’ve moved the goal post to a treaty.

The United states holocaust museum has a pretty good 'plain text' definition of genocide, which perfectly captures what the Israelis are trying to do to the Palestinians as genocide.

The article also has some useful 'plain text' descriptions of ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, mass atrocities, mass killing and war crimes.

https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/definitions

The astute reader will notice that the Israelis are actually guilty of all of these mass atrocities as part of their attempts to genocide the Palestinians.

Genocide is defined as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.

The acts are:

  • Killing members of the group.
  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.
  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
  • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Except for perhaps the last point, there's no person that could argue that Israel has not perpetrated these acts against the Palestinians.

All that leaves then is the intent aspect of genocide.

The Israelis are very open about their desire to destroy Palestine. Law4palestine has a collection for quotes from current and former legislators which capture their genocidal intent:

https://law4palestine.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/1-Database-of-Israeli-Incitement-to-Genocide-15th-January-2024-DECISION-MAKERS.pdf

https://law4palestine.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2-Database-of-Israeli-Incitement-to-Genocide-15th-January-2024-LEGISLATORS.pdf

If you don't feel like reading through that, here's an excellent summary of other evidence of Israel's genocidal intent from Jewish Currents:

https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

*Edit: added the link to the legislators list. Left the decision makers list as it just serves to hammer the point home

Yes, the plain text of the international treaties that define genocide...

By what rationale do you group people who live in Palestine together as a particular group- because they aren’t. Israel wants Gaza, and they want everyone there who’s not an Israeli gone. Either chased out or murdered. It’s not like the extermination of certain Native peoples carried out by the US government in the 1800’s where they were obliterated for what they were.