Donald Trump Wins US Presidency for a Second Time

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Trump won USA Presidential Elections 🎉🇺🇸😁😁 Who is going to celebrate tonight? 🍾🎈

I do truly look forward for it 🤗

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You do know that all of those restrictions happened while Trump was president, right? Don’t tell me your memory is this poor.

There is whole article about it on Daily Sceptic from Jeffrey Tucker. If they wouldn't censor us so eagerly, you would be able to read it sooner.

https://dailysceptic.org/2024/11/05/why-i-changed-my-mind-on-trump/

Does that article change the fact that all of that happened while Trump was president? Because, and I don’t know if you know this, but you can’t change the past.

How complicated is politics?

Consider that Donald Trump in his last term presided over the single most comprehensive impositions on the rights and liberties of all Americans, including shutting down on religious freedom and free enterprise itself, plus violating property rights of renters and even home owners to hold parties, not to mention exploding the budget in a way that broke all records. The controls wrecked education and plunged the population into deep ill-health and new levels of substance abuse, then poverty.

In this, he went beyond anything done by Wilson, FDR, or LBJ.

HERE IS THE TWIST

All his opponents only criticize him for not locking down sooner and staying locking down longer! Meanwhile, though he never talks about it, he worked to reverse his egregious errors from mid summer 2020 and after. But he had already lost power and was no longer in charge, and had become nothing but a pundit with social media that was taken down too with the urging of the bureaucracy now in control. It was the first coup of several that followed.

When the new government took over, it did not reverse the outrages but added to them. It imposed masks on the whole population and then conscripted the population to be biological subjects in an science experiment with a new form of vaccine that turned out to be useless at best, very often injurious, and deadly at worst.

So here we are: shocked at what Trump did but more than aware that all the viable alternatives hate him mostly because he was not totalitarian enough, while promising even more censorship and more control. Harris's own ads brag about the coming price controls on groceries and rents! And they call Trump the fascist.

I truly do not see how historians in 100 years will make sense of any of this

https://x.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1853796864233034064

Sorry. You can’t change the past no matter what you paste. The things you don’t like happened while Trump was president. Lockdowns, masking, vaccine requirements… all happened under Trump. They even happened under Trump here in deep red Indiana.

I know you’re trying to gaslight history away, but you’re bad at it.

I think reality already told us, where is the truth. Society will align accordingly soon.

Reality did indeed tell us what the truth is. You're just pretending it isn't the truth.

Again- lockdowns, masking requirements and vaccine requirements all happened under Trump whether you like that truth or not.

You know what is also interesting? That around 10 million of votes from 2020 just evaporated. Isn't it interesting? I staring to wonder, what was the covid pandemic really for? 🤔

All that proves is that voter turnout was lower this election, and historically republicans have an advantage when that happens, and would you look at that a Republican won. Go figure.

And yet that still doesn't change the fact that all of the things you are complaining about happened under Trump.

You can pretend the past didn't happen, you can gaslight, you can try to change the subject, but none of those change that fact.

Yes, that's true, it truly started under Trump but continued even worsened after the president was changed. That's also fact.

I personally don't see Trump so optimistically but after the independent candidate R.F. Kennedy Junior joined his effort and Elon Musk published Twitter Files I do see it as more positive choice.

Trump in his recent talk stated, that he would be for choice if you want to take vaccine or not, returned all the personnel which was fired due to vaccine mandate and sack off anyone who pushed the mandatory vaccine, which I think it's good stand. RFK also should be the one, who will be leading the reorganization of CDC and other agencies related to the covid response.

it truly started under Trump

And yet you think he won't do it this time if there's another pandemic. Why? RFK, Jr. is not the president-elect. Neither is Elon Musk.

On top of that, none of them have control of what states wish to do on this issue.

You are in favor of states' rights, aren't you? Or is that only when they have the right to do what you want them to do?

And it's always been a choice to be vaccinated. No one is holding down people's arms and jabbing needles into them. I'm not sure why you're pretending Trump saying that things will be exactly the same as they've been for the last four years and the previous two to three years before that under Trump would make that different this time. It's always been like that.

This sounds more like you feel the need to claim you're the one who was oppressed while queer and brown people get marched into camps for "poisoning the blood of the country."

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You really should fix your goalposts, since you keep moving them.

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