Don't feel bad for the Moderators of Reddit

chagall@lemmy.world to Reddit@lemmy.world – 1281 points –

I should begin by mentioning that I am (was) a moderator of three subreddits: one large subreddit, one NSFW subreddit and a medical-related subreddit. After u/spez's calamitous AMA, I joined Lemmy and haven't looked back. I am really enjoying the Lemmy/KBin vibe. It is very much an alpha (almost beta) product and the ad free, corporate free, decentralized nature of the fediverse has a thrill of its own.

Over the past couple of months, Reddit has done everything it can to show its moderators that they are low-value and easily replaceable. They've done this by removing technical tools, killing off third party applications, crippling API changes and jaw-droppingly bad public relations. Heavily used products like /r/toolbox are no longer being actively developed. When Reddit API implements a breaking, non-backwards compatible change, that tool will also die.

Yet the moderators of Reddit continue to moderate. They stay and help Reddit build Reddit. They continue to work for free; to allow Reddit to make money off of their work despite being abused. When I see things like the comment section on this post, I no longer feel sorry for the Reddit moderators still on the site. I see them as a sad, sorry group who cling to the false hope of a corporate turnaround. They could leave Reddit. They should leave Reddit.

These moderators are in an abusive relationship with Reddit, Inc. I might understand the argument, "we built this community, we can't just abandon it". But would you give the same advice to someone else in an abusive relationship? I get that the analogy between the mods and the corp is an imperfect one, yet it is similar enough to be valid, in my opinion.

Moderating is really hard. It is hard and thankless and never-ending. Finding good moderators who can handle the marathon nature of the gig is incredibly difficult. If Reddit moderators were to delete their moderating bots, downgrade their automod "code" and dial back their modding efforts to 5 min/week or less, it would materially hurt Reddit as a product.

The sunk-cost fallacy is a real thing. If the Reddit mods understood this, they'd take their talents elsewhere. But as long as they continue to help Reddit build Reddit, one shouldn't feel sorry for them.

They could leave. I did and I've never been happier.

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You use the analogy of people staying in an abusive relationship and then say "one shouldn’t feel sorry for them." Should we also not feel sorry for people on the receiving end of an abusive relationship? This whole post doesn't make any sense.

Saying the whole post doesn't make sense based on a single analogy difference doesn't make sense either.

An abusive relationship where one partner abuses the other might not be so easy to leave if one's livelihood depends on living in their house and having nowhere else to go.

Being a Reddit mod is absolutely easy to just stop doing altogether as one is not tied in any way and livelihood is most likely dependent on being a mod (as most, if not all, are not paid). It is purely a clout move at this point when Reddit started being abusive all of sudden.

fair enough. honestly don't care. reddit can get fucked. their mods were always shit birds. they can get fucked too.