four new Beehaw communities (and a word on new community creations)

alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgmod to Beehaw Support@beehaw.org – 1 points –

hello folks! some additional suggestions have been made to round out Beehaw's current set of communities, so we've gone ahead and done that. we have four new communities accordingly, which are:

Disability and Accessibility! i think this one is pretty self-explanatory, but for anyone ambiguous on its intent, @xuxxun@beehaw.org puts it like this:

Feel free to post anything health, chronic illness, disability or accessibility related. If you need a space for support or sharing your experiences regarding all of the above topics, this is the right place as well :)

People of Color! this is a community specifically devoted to ethnic minority groups and their issues, and for discussions and connections relating to those minority groups. we're also hopeful it'll be a good space for minorities who are migrating to Lemmy, since i'm not aware of very many communities on here to this point like that. there's an already existing introduction thread in the community by @kalanggam@beehaw.org if you'd like to drop by.

Betterment and Praxis! i'll let @Wigglet@beehaw.org speak for the idea behind this one, because i think it really gets at some of the stuff we're trying to help build here:

Even if it’s just growing a little bit extra in the garden for the local food bank, picking up rubbish on the side of the road, or just making an effort to use the bus, having a supportive community encouraging you makes those little choices a bit easier. Maybe you’ve always wanted to do a little bit more for your community but don’t know where to start. Maybe you already do some of these things and want to help others get started. Maybe you’re just really proud of how something is done in your community. We might not be able to solve all the problems but we can at least try to make a few small things a little bit nicer.

and, finally: Socialism! there's no shortage of communities like this on Lemmy but a commonality many people have experienced is they're... not very welcoming, in general. luckily, a left-wing subreddit got in touch with us about moving (pre-boom, even) and we think their community on Reddit fit the ethos of the site pretty well, so we've helped move them over here. as the sidebar states, this community is:

A place for all leftist and labor news and discussion, as long as you’re nice about it. [...] Non-socialists are welcome to come to learn, though it’s hard to get to in-depth discussions if the community is constantly fighting over the basics. We ask that non-socialists please be respectful and try not to turn this into a “left vs right” debate forum by asking leading questions or by trying to draw others into a fight.

we hope you'll find each of these four new communities a useful space to discuss in.

now, as for the subject of new community creations: we're definitely slowing down on batches of communities after this set. this isn't a total stop--as our existing communities grow, we'll split off new ones as needed--but we're going to try and keep additions to a minimum until the Reddit wave crests. tentatively, our next batch of community creations will probably be after July 1, and any we create before then will be on an individual as-needed basis.

we think the current set of communities covers most things adequately enough for our purposes right now. some imperfections exist but to reiterate: we aren't trying to be Reddit, so some overlap and imperfection in coverage is fine with us.

this also doesn't mean we're done taking public opinion checks. we're not sure when this will be sent out yet (it's being worked on today), but we're drafting a community survey where among other things we'll gauge interest in the suggestions i've seen that haven't already been added. be on the lookout for that.

thanks folks!

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I think the only major missing community I can think of is “Fitness and Health” for discussions of working out and dieting. I know “Food and Cooking” and “Sports” exist but those don’t quite fit the same vibe.

honestly I never had much use for the general communities like "technology", "news", "sex", etc. I came to reddit and stuck around for the niche stuff. Even niches that I am not involved in, it is fun to see what people care about and get a different perspective. And sometimes it's a life saver to be able to access specialized communities. Holla at /r/pestcontrol, /r/bedbugs, /r/whatisthisbug and the related subs.

I can understand from an admin perspective of a specific instance why you'd want to keep a lid on things during a time of crazy growth. In terms of lemmy as a platform, having small communities that can develop shared norms and knowledge is what will make it worthwhile and avoid the general feeling of being "over run" with low quality content. the big tent groups will always be lowest common denominator. Also the general topics do not want to get full of a specific kind of common but boring post. Like /r/apple (IIRC) didn't allow tech support type question; there is a separate space for that.

In your position I would consider making a "new group request" section where people can post their ideas and others can express interest. You could request for people to do a bit of work such as writing up community guidelines to show some effort. When a group is rejected by this instance and they form somewhere else; in most cases you could allow them to link to that (unless it is you know terrible) so it can be found by others in the future. I understand that would entail a whole lot of work and headaches to run and people will be mad about it but over time it could shake out to allow actually communties.

I think the other hand is that beehaw itself is more like a general "home" server. There will be instances with more niche interests that you can subscribe and interact with. And beehaw seems to be more about building a community in the broader sense. But idk, I'm not the big yeehaw of beehaw.

In terms of lemmy as a platform, having small communities that can develop shared norms and knowledge is what will make it worthwhile and avoid the general feeling of being “over run” with low quality content. the big tent groups will always be lowest common denominator. Also the general topics do not want to get full of a specific kind of common but boring post. Like /r/apple (IIRC) didn’t allow tech support type question; there is a separate space for that.

on these points: Lemmy has no shortage of small communities--and those have overwhelmingly gone poorly and/or not really developed in that way (nor have the "big tent" groups, which you must remember are hundreds of orders of magnitude smaller than Reddit's) in the past year and a half on the platform. it's possible the new influx of users will breathe life into some of these, but most of them are completely dead and will always be, and basically just clutter the experience. i'm also not really sure what we can do objectively about the "common but boring" post you describe, since that's going to always be a subjective measure, but we do already prune comments people report as low-quality so it's not ridiculous to me that we'd also try and apply some baseline level of quality to posts.

In your position I would consider making a “new group request” section where people can post their ideas and others can express interest. You could request for people to do a bit of work such as writing up community guidelines to show some effort. When a group is rejected by this instance and they form somewhere else; in most cases you could allow them to link to that (unless it is you know terrible) so it can be found by others in the future. I understand that would entail a whole lot of work and headaches to run and people will be mad about it but over time it could shake out to allow actually communties.

this is not to shut down this idea, but in my honest experience: i don't think most of the people requesting communities will put this much effort in, which would just be a headache for us (because we'd probably just have to ignore it) and for the suggester (because i mean... where else are they asked to justify, on that level, a proposal for an internet community?). the vast majority of suggestions we've gotten to this point have been one-line or very brief suggestions, not a pitch package, and i expect that to not change.

in any case i don't think this will happen in the immediate term if we do it. that would be another space we have to really keep an eye on, and we're already covering a lot with not very many people.

Regarding your comment about "small communities" not really developing: Couldn't we just have a simple technical solution? Communities that aren't "active" just get pruned, culled or just removed from the search.

This would allow the opportunity for some of those "small communities" to thrive (while others die out).

I'm like the parent poster. I came from Reddit and joined /r/GameDeals and /r/PatientGamers but I specifically did not joins /r/Games. Why? Because for me there was too much noise and content I wasn't interest in /r/Games, but GameDeals + PatientGamers combined offered me more quality with less noise.

I'm kind of frustrated with Lemmy that I need to filter through all the Gaming communities (and noise) just to sort-of keep tabs on what's happening in the community.