/r/LegalAdviceUK is forced back open, vows to move the entire community off Reddit
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As with many other subreddits, /r/LegalAdviceUK (which had been dark since the start of the blackout) has been sent a thinly-veiled threat by Reddit.
So they've reopened in order to start moving the entire community of 810,000 subscribers to somewhere else.
As you can imagine there are a number of legal professionals who moderate that sub, and they really don't take kindly to being threatened. They sign off their reopening message with "Fuck /u/Spez and long live John Oliver." but for the real fun you might want to look up a very famous British legal case they reference, Arkell v Pressdram 1971.
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Hello, mod here. I am glad you enjoyed our post. It felt appropriate.
Comments were also made to the admins in modmail directly too.
Regarding migration, we are obviously open to different options., though perhaps "vowing" is a bit strong.
We have also made https://kbin.social/m/legal/ and https://feddit.uk/c/legaladviceuk (edit: also https://feddit.uk/c/legaladvice)
These are not active yet, and they might never be, but they are options we are looking at.
Obviously I'm biased and would love to see the subreddit end up in the fediverse, but I'm glad you guys are taking your time and trying to figure out what medium and what platform is the best fit for what y'all do.
If legaladvice is available on feddit.uk, you should try to snag that, too. As a UK-based (or focused -- I know servers are often hosted in other countries than the users they serve) instance, the UK is already in the domain. Though, I also get why you might want it right there in the community handle directly, given how which website a given community is hosted on is not always crystal clear in the current site designs.
Just grabbed https://feddit.uk/c/legaladvice too, thanks for the comment/suggestion.
I am cautious of taking ownership too much, as we might not end up using them and wouldn't want to domain-squat, so in theory I would be open to letting other people take control or decide to moderate them if they felt they were fully invested.
You can always ask the admin to purge the communities if you end up not using them. That will release the name for others to pick up.
That is very good to know too!
Probably don't even need to ask. I'm sure that eventually we'll come up with a means to snag dead communities, as there's gonna be tons of them.
You do know that you can visit kbin from lemmy, and lemmy from kbin? You don't have to choose 1 of the 2.
Had no idea what-so-ever :)
I subscribed to the lemmy, it's here : https://kbin.social/m/legaladviceuk@feddit.uk
With how federation works only new posts from now on will be synchronised, not the history.
Christ, we're gonna have to learn how a whole infrastructure set up works.
@Litigant-In-Person@kbin.social
Yeah, but it's not that consequential whether you choose a good Lemmy instance or a good Kbin instance.
As a Kbin Stan I prefer this interface, the community is new, without some of the Tankie baggage/ perception of Lemmy.
@losttourist @static
syncing to other lemmy's and kbins is not that big of a problem if you're popular, the first subscriber from an instance will be quick
you mod everything on the main instance.
On top of the other replies, here is a short and simple video explaining the basic concept behind the fediverse (which is the umbrella term used to describe the network which Lemmy and kbin instances are part of)
https://framatube.org/w/9dRFC6Ya11NCVeYKn8ZhiD?start=1m37s
PS: The link above is to a Peertube instance, which is the fediverse alternative for YouTube.
@LollerCorleone Much appreciated, thank you!
Lemmy and Kbin are hopefully gonna grow and become better than Reddit has ever been, but they're not there yet and will be a while before it happens. Specifically, moderation tools in both platforms are reportedly weak at the moment, with a long list of features yet to be implemented. So while i do want the so-called Threadiverse growing, if you're in a moderating hotspot as your post mentions, you might wanna consider this detail and check if the current tools as present are good enough or not, it might be enough for your needs with what exists already but frankly the subs I've modded have been tiny and i don't have the mental model to tell you if they are already.
I too urge you to not choose Discord for this community for all the reasons stated. Plus it's the wrong tool for the job, it's "chat", not "forums", it's by it's nature impermanent and for ephemeral conversation. Hell, a good old forum will be miles better than Discord for this.
@jherazob
Yes, definitely - thats why we have made the spaces but are not migrating over for sure, we're just exploring options.
You should do a poll like pics and say should we only allow posts not requesting legal advice and any replies to questions to indicate it would be inappropriate to provide legal advice on reddit. Any legal advice will be removed.
Nah. The mods spoke about it, but broadly they just care too much about the people that need the subreddit.
Thank you!
Hello, LAUK mod! Thank you for all the good help you've given people over the years.
I don't know if it's been forgotten in all the confusion, but two weeks ago, reddit since that they were laying off about 90 staff / 5% of their workforce, and restructuring some of the rest [ https://www.axios.com/pro/media-deals/2023/06/07/reddit-layoffs-hiring-ipo ]. And now, if course, in addition to the layoff/restructuring issues, in addition to the absolute insanity caused by reddit's stubborn reaction to the very people who populate and moderate 99% of the data on their site, their workers are also more having to deal with Huffman breathing down their necks, insisting that it's absolutely vital that they deliver a fully-functioning set of mod tools on the 1st - tools that they've repeatedly refused to even really look at for over a decade. [I expect a shit show.]
But anyway, just wanted to point out that the reddit layoffs are already starting.
@Litigant-In-Person@kbin.social you guys are badasses, you made my night. I wish you good luck. I love that you're competent enough to strike well. I hope to see you in the lemmyverse, be it on kbin or lemmy or anywhere. 😁
Federated link to the UK one.
Federated link to the generic one.
Federated link to the Kbin one
You might want to remove your links and edit these ones in, as they currently won't work in a confusing way. There's still a lot of rough edges on the Fediverse.
@CanadaPlus
I changed them to -
and now the links no longer work, lol
lemmy uses /c/ kbin uses /m/
In the end the url structure is not important.
Just use search:
on kbin you would search on something like "legaladviceuk@feddit.uk"
on lemmy you need to search prefixed with a !, "!legaladviceuk@feddit.uk"
It may be easier if you hosted your own Lemmy instance and guiding Redditor’s to that, check out oracle always free tier, I believe you can get a 24GB RAM Arm 4 OCPUs, which is definitely enough spec to hit the ground running with a few thousands subscribers. If you end up needing higher spec than that, you could start a donation pot, giving the help the sub provides, I feel safer in saying you’d get enough donations.
https://levelup.gitconnected.com/a-powerful-server-from-oracle-cloud-always-free-cbc73d9fbfee?source=linkShare-e81cdeaa1304-1687204896
You get a wan IP too, you just need to buy an instance domain, exactly the same as buying any other domain and point it to you IP.
It would be the most seamless way to migrate imv, don’t have to deal with both kbins problems and potential problems of Lemmy, where you aren’t in control of the server hosting all your material.
Happy to try and assist, pro bono, if you like this idea and need my help.
Mmm. On Lemmy you can look at the comment source code, but in case you can't on Kbin:
[Federated link to the UK one](/c/legaladviceuk@feddit.uk).
[Federated link to the generic one](/c/legaladvice@feddit.uk).
[Federated link to the Kbin one](/m/legal@kbin.social).
If you do it that way, Lemmy at least will fill in whichever instance the user is on, so they can participate. On the bright side, they clearly fixed the "can't respond to Kbin users" issue.
The 404 thing is probably instance-specific.
For what my 2c are worth, I think legaladviceuk is probably the clearest in terms of discoverability. Despite a community existing on a UK-focused instance, it's ambiguous as to whether it's UK specific.
In the end though, it probably doesn't matter too much, as long as the instance is being actively maintained and is in tune with the values of the community.
Setting up your own instance would actually probably be the best idea but if there's no one technical around to maintain it I'm not sure it would work out.