Why is the government targeting incels?locked
You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS.
They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring.
I share a lot of my experience here.
https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel
My question is, is it far that the government is so targeting incels?
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I lived by myself until feds harassed me from my secure job (back in early 2022) and then started subjecting me to sleep deprivation this year.
Friend, I recommend you consider visiting the hospital. There's a high chance you have an undiagnosed condition that they can help you with and make your life much easier. That you think the government is interfering with your sleep is a paranoid delusion, but it's very controllable.
Yes, I understand that you believe that and that I can't convince you otherwise. I am a nurse, however, and am assuring you that you will receive help for it at a hospital. It's not something I can help you with though.
dissidents have often marked as crazy by governments. indeed, they often take a hand in driving that person crazy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung
Yeah, but zersetzung was used against credible political targets. Not against some random guy that can't get laid.
I'm not a random guy who can't get laid. I spoke forthrightly about incel macro issues, got put on a watchlist, am subjected to intrusive monitoring and fed harassment (sleep deprivation, various other things) etc etc.
None of those things happened because no one cares that you talked about incel macro issues
are you saying you are privy to why they really happened (and you acknowledge that they happened?)
In the end, you choose the route you'll take. My recommendation is to check yourself in to get help before you spiral into a real crisis. Government or not, if you can't sleep you're going to need to go somewhere for help eventually.
Friend, you need professional help
And how did they do that exactly?
They've shutdown all incel spaces across the web and worked with tech platforms like reddit to likewise ban incel spaces. They set up honeypot forums in their place operated by feds so ANY would be incel poster gets scrutinized. When the person ends up in that space and says something a fed doesn't like, they're immediately hacked and subject to NSA tools. I became aware of this when, a month or so after posting on incels.is, I started receiving "advice" based on content retrieved from my phone! It goes much further than that -- they use metrics to see what threads a reader (not even a user) clicks on and then hack that user. They are often surprised that so many of their readers clicking on violent-endorsing threads by the larping feds end up being women. 😆
And how did that cause you to lose your job and sleep?
explained upthread jackass
Except no one is doing sonic attacks on your apartment. Insomnia is linked to schizophrenia and can make schizophrenia worse.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4855992/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5614792/
https://www.healthline.com/health/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-and-sleep
https://www.sleephealthfoundation.org.au/schizophrenia-and-sleep.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0920996419305237
Considering the resources the government has, they can induce insomnia on an individual in order to get them labeled as schizo, and as I was (am) under intrusive monitoring that might've been just the intention so I end up hospitalized and deprived of 2nd amendment rights. Assholes. Indeed, from the FBI's "Making Prevention a Reality" report, they pretty much say they desire an individual get involuntarily committed solely to deprive them of 2nd amendment rights. That's very close to saying they'll undertake action to have that outcome.
That would be an incredibly bad idea as most people with insomnia do not have schizophrenia
...just the ones they want to drive to the madhouse.
To be clear, you cannot be held without a judge's order even if you go in voluntarily. They will not keep you for long and based on your symptoms may not even admit you but instead give you resources to use after visiting the ER. I think you're in a good position to head in before a real crisis that will get you involuntarily committed.
For sure, but you can drive someone to insanity by depriving them of sleep. I say I am subject to intrusive monitoring. I realize that if I try to express this to normal everyday people, I will come off as schizo. On top of that to be going around sleepless -- a mental zombie -- is going to make me look crazier, and make everyone around me think I'm a loon. Maybe this leaves a "trail" of mental-health issue history that, should I snap in public or something, can be used to commit me.
You will be told that you are having paranoid delusions by healthcare professionals. I am a healthcare professional and am telling you that. We don't expect you to believe us. But what I'm also telling you is that not matter what, you know that you are heading to a crisis without any sleep. Not believing me about that, or other professionals about that, doesn't change the fact that you need help with what you're experiencing. As far as a record goes, a judge decides if you are an ACTIVE threat. Past doesn't matter for that, unless you have a past history of being violent. Being delusional is NOT an active threat.
I'm not having paranoid delusions. This was my experience: I posted on the web forum incels.is -- run by DHS -- and have since been subject to intrusive monitoring which escalated into direct fed harassment of me in various ways. Part of this "intrusive monitoring" entails monitoring of my communications and online activity. Hence it's not out of the realm of possibility that some of the people here eager to label my claims as paranoid/delusional are feds...
But that's more work than they need to do to discredit or lock someone up. It makes no sense for them to do that to you. It's much more likely you have a health condition.
but they did and it happened. also incels.is = dhs. incels are subject to political repression.
Please at least consider getting mental health just in case you're wrong
Bro they broke into my apartment and replaced my prozac with super-depression inducing crap. I took a few of the pills and fell into super depression. Then they started teasing me on reddit "does he notice? does he notice?" etc etc. The pills were colored differently. Not sure what their purpose was. Plus if I see a therapist they'll be privy to what I say (under the 9/11 bill they can pull your records.)