Can you show where that says that three cups of coffee in a row is safe for a child?
Again you need define "child" here.
For adolescents that's 100-175mg/day, equivalent to 1.5 Monster energy drinks, or a large iced coffee. Per studies, that's fine for a 12 year old but I wouldn't want my 12 year old drinking adult beverages with any regularity. I'd rather work on there sleep habits, etc.
Worth noting that higher caffeine take is associated with things like poor diet/etc, but not causally linked.
Per day and all at once are two different things. One is a concentrated dose, the other is spread out. You're not even accounting for that.
Do you have data showing speed on consumption is relevant? I honestly never considered and don't have any info
Do I have data that a solution is stronger when it is not diluted? Every chemistry book ever?
That's... Not how human body processes things.
My mistake for assuming this was a real conversation between interested people.
Really? So it's just as toxic to drink something in one dose as it is to drink it in several doses throughout the day? Weird, I wonder why medicine is spaced out across the day so often?
Many reasons! Sometimes to achieve stable levels, sometimes due to interactions with cellular processes.
Do you want to go into that? I can share what I know. You don't seem to be engaging in good faith tho :/
I'm just not understanding why something would be equally toxic if you took it all at once compared to taking a little bit at different times of the day. That really doesn't make sense when it comes to basic chemistry.
Well for instance protein doesn't matter for anything but an elite trainer, whether it is consumed in one portion or in many, or when throughout the day.
Carbohydrates do have a localized effect but the amount is definitely blown up for selling health fads.
As for me, I'm on some medications you take all at once and some taken throughout the day because the body processes them differently. Someone on insulin and someone with ADHD take their medicine quite differently, as an easy example.
I genuinely don't know with caffeine and am curious.
Because if you took less at a time your body will have already processed some of the previous dose before you take the next does. You shouldn't eat 5 pounds of black liquorice in one sitting because it's toxic in that amount, but you can safely have that amount spread out over time.
Imagine taking 6 ibuprofen all at once instead of taking 1 or 2 every few hours. That would absolutely not be a good idea.
Everything on earth that can be consumed has a dosage that is too high to safely take all at once, even water. You're not just pouring this stuff into an isolated beaker.
You don't need a medical degree to have an opinion. Caffeine is a mostly harmless drug.
What do you base this on? What tests have you done or read? An opinion is not medical science.
An opinion is not medical science.
Yes I said its an opinion, I made no claim it was medical science. My opinion is that in many cases, a teenager consuming reasonable amounts of caffeine is not something to worry about. I base this off of the knowledge I have of caffeine as someone who isn't a doctor. If you want a doctor's opinion, you should go to a doctor instead of the internet.
How is six times what is in a coke can a reasonable amount of caffeine?
200mg of caffeine is reasonable depending on body weight.
"The principle sources of caffeine intake among adolescents are sweetened coffee and energy drinks, with a daily caffeine intake below the current suggested maximum acceptable levels for adolescents (2.5 mg/kg body weight/day"
If people are drinking more than one of these per day, that's a problem. It should be more like once every few days or optimally, never.
I doubt kids are following such a guideline.
Have you ever met a 16 year old with the self control to only ever have one of these sorts of drinks per day? Let alone a 16 year old fan of Logan Paul?
Why is it not a concern for you? Where did you get your medical degree from?
Because I can do math? I don't need a medical degree if I just read studies from people who have medical degrees.
As a layperson, I make decisions based on what scientists tell me, rather than thinking I know more than scientists.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6296805/
Can you show where that says that three cups of coffee in a row is safe for a child?
Again you need define "child" here.
For adolescents that's 100-175mg/day, equivalent to 1.5 Monster energy drinks, or a large iced coffee. Per studies, that's fine for a 12 year old but I wouldn't want my 12 year old drinking adult beverages with any regularity. I'd rather work on there sleep habits, etc.
Worth noting that higher caffeine take is associated with things like poor diet/etc, but not causally linked.
Per day and all at once are two different things. One is a concentrated dose, the other is spread out. You're not even accounting for that.
Do you have data showing speed on consumption is relevant? I honestly never considered and don't have any info
Do I have data that a solution is stronger when it is not diluted? Every chemistry book ever?
That's... Not how human body processes things.
My mistake for assuming this was a real conversation between interested people.
Really? So it's just as toxic to drink something in one dose as it is to drink it in several doses throughout the day? Weird, I wonder why medicine is spaced out across the day so often?
Many reasons! Sometimes to achieve stable levels, sometimes due to interactions with cellular processes.
Do you want to go into that? I can share what I know. You don't seem to be engaging in good faith tho :/
I'm just not understanding why something would be equally toxic if you took it all at once compared to taking a little bit at different times of the day. That really doesn't make sense when it comes to basic chemistry.
Well for instance protein doesn't matter for anything but an elite trainer, whether it is consumed in one portion or in many, or when throughout the day.
Carbohydrates do have a localized effect but the amount is definitely blown up for selling health fads.
As for me, I'm on some medications you take all at once and some taken throughout the day because the body processes them differently. Someone on insulin and someone with ADHD take their medicine quite differently, as an easy example.
I genuinely don't know with caffeine and am curious.
Because if you took less at a time your body will have already processed some of the previous dose before you take the next does. You shouldn't eat 5 pounds of black liquorice in one sitting because it's toxic in that amount, but you can safely have that amount spread out over time.
Imagine taking 6 ibuprofen all at once instead of taking 1 or 2 every few hours. That would absolutely not be a good idea.
Everything on earth that can be consumed has a dosage that is too high to safely take all at once, even water. You're not just pouring this stuff into an isolated beaker.
That was my point.
You don't need a medical degree to have an opinion. Caffeine is a mostly harmless drug.
What do you base this on? What tests have you done or read? An opinion is not medical science.
Yes I said its an opinion, I made no claim it was medical science. My opinion is that in many cases, a teenager consuming reasonable amounts of caffeine is not something to worry about. I base this off of the knowledge I have of caffeine as someone who isn't a doctor. If you want a doctor's opinion, you should go to a doctor instead of the internet.
How is six times what is in a coke can a reasonable amount of caffeine?
200mg of caffeine is reasonable depending on body weight.
"The principle sources of caffeine intake among adolescents are sweetened coffee and energy drinks, with a daily caffeine intake below the current suggested maximum acceptable levels for adolescents (2.5 mg/kg body weight/day"
ophrp.org/journal/view.php?doi=10.24171/j.phrp.2018.9.6.01
Yes. Per day. This is one can.
If people are drinking more than one of these per day, that's a problem. It should be more like once every few days or optimally, never.
I doubt kids are following such a guideline.
Have you ever met a 16 year old with the self control to only ever have one of these sorts of drinks per day? Let alone a 16 year old fan of Logan Paul?