Lemmy probably feels like Reddit when it first started, all warm cuddly and friendly to newcomers eager to discuss and collaborate around central topics.

kucuva@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world – 657 points –

I joined reddit on the tailwind, so it was all echo chamber, we hate newcomers, gatekeeping, automod frenzy, too many rulebreakers, too many rules, etc I could be wrong, but thats what I imagine it used to be like.

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Please quote me being 'incensed' and explain how you could figure out my emotional state from text. This should be interesting.

I couldn't prove the sky is blue, if you're going to be hostile to any text under my username.

You are complaining about me insulting you. Which never happened. Substitute whatever summary of that is dry enough; that is the problem and I am asking you what else you wanted.

Jesus Christ, take yes for an answer.

Waiting for that quote.

No, you aren't. That's the problem. You could just hit Show Context a few times, and see what I'm talking about, where you scoffed at the suggestion I hadn't insulted you. Or you could remember when you wrote that, like, an hour ago. But you're making extremely specific demands as if the exact word I used must be the exact word you used, or else I'm completely wrong about everything.

How dare I say you say I said a thing, just because that's plainly what happened.

More to the point - how dare I project any sort of internal state onto you, in this discussion of how you have done exactly that to me.

I am telling you there was no insult in answering your comments directly and accurately. You cannot believe that. And that inability is somehow my fault. Aaand asking how I could do better is just further insult, and also my fault.

The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer.

I guess you lied when you said I was incensed. I wonder why you lied?

This is now weak trolling.

Insulting me won't make a lie true. Sorry. If you didn't lie, you can quote me. But I'm pretty sure you lied.

'You are not being intellectually honest.'

'When did I say that?'

'Incorrect.'

Again, because I can't trust you to recognize the concept: paraphrasing.

Nope. You said I was incensed. But you had no evidence to that effect. It was a lie. That's okay, lots of people lie.

Like you saying I insulted you?

Trying to change the subject will not make your lie true either, sorry.

It's the root subject. It's the thing you were so not-incensed about.

That's great, but I'm really only interested in talking about your lie. You're welcome to explain why you lied if you ever admit to it. I'll be interested in that. Otherwise, I'm just going to continue to mostly ignore anything else you have to say. Especially the long posts. Not going to read those at all. Not when they could be lies too.

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