Ex-Proud Boys leader sentenced to 22 years for role in US Capitol attack

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Ex-Proud Boys leader sentenced to 22 years for role in US Capitol attack
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That was the argument people made for Hillary's certain victory on Election Day, that the notion of Trump being elected would mean a huge Democratic turnout.

Thing is, people aren't going to give a shit who the candidate of change is when they can't afford their grocery bills, and Trump isn't going to have to lie about how little Biden has done to alleviate people's poverty.

I didn't vote when it was Hillary or Tbag. I hated both. But I'll keep voting to protect against him happening again. It's exactly what the dems are counting on, and it's unfortunately working on me.

Still waiting to see who I'll vote for in primaries, though. My vote only counts there in my state.

So what was your hatred of Hillary based on out of curiosity?

I recall that she supported some regulation of the internet that I considered harmful. I can't recall the specifics anymore.

It's good to vote, for sure.

I'll be voting Green myself.

A green vote is no different than a Trump vote

A green vote is a green vote.

A libertarian vote is a libertarian vote.

An independent vote is an indepdent vote.

How about we get better candidates from both mainstream parties if they actually want swing voters, rather than painting their opposition as a bunch of shitbags. (Mind you, both parties are shitbags who force unpopular policies).

Ideally that would be in the case, but in reality with FPTP your vote for Green has the same effect as a vote for Trump. I'm much farther left than the Dems, but until we have a revolution that's just how it is.

I'm not saying it won't be close. My parents who voted for him complain about how often they get asked to donate to his campaign slash legal fund. I don't think that's a great look if it's about grocery money.

I remember 2016. Bernie bros felt maybe rightfully so that he got shafted in the primary. Many didn't turn out. Trump as obvious of a con man as he was to us, was a successful business man to many centrist voters. I think that illusion has mostly faded. On top of that people on the right were programmed to hate Hillary since the 90s. The vitriol for Trump now is the best shot Biden has, and I think it's enough.