r/The_Donald now on Lemmy (edit: not anymore)

Tsinc@feddit.de to Lemmy@lemmy.ml – 120 points –

It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.

In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.

The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.

The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.

Where are the instances that show face against racism?

edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks

edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)

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I support defederatiom personally because it sends a stronger message from the community. Blocking the community is "I don't want to see this." Defederating is "we don't want to see this."

So, from what I've gathered, many consider the broad lesson learnt from various defederation dramas over on mastodon is that making a genuine attempt to voice concern with the instance admins prior to defederation is almost always the better way to go. It avoids drama and inconvenience while promoting a better ecosystem of cooperation between instance admins and their users.

Obviously at some point when there aren't better options and users need to be protected, use defederation, that's what it's for.

But at this point, I'd try to talk or have our admins talk to the instance admin first.

Exactly, defederation is a nuclear option that affects everyone on both instances.

I agree. It may help send a message that the community isn't tolerated, hopefully getting it removed.

Yeah I guess it does put pressure on instance admins to remove the offending community from their instance. I am just not sure if we want to cross that line into penalizing everybody on an instance for simply being near a bad community though. I also think doing this kind of proactive censorship also forces these people into deeper echo chambers as they get more and more isolated.

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Unfortunately, users don't have the option to block entire instances. We need to rely on our moderating overlords to do it for us.

It would be pretty easy to filter content from specific instances in a Lemmy app without Lemmy explicitly supporting it on the server side. I'm working on an Android app right now, as soon as all the basic stuff is done I'll implement it.

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