Germany bans far-right group that tried to indoctrinate children with Nazi ideology

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Germany bans far-right group that tried to indoctrinate children with Nazi ideology
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Why is it that whenever someone says "Nazis are bad" there are always weirdos crawling out of the woodwork to say "what about communism?"?

It's like clockwork.

Because anti-communism is just fascism with a fake mustache and trenchcoat.

Because Communism overall killed more people than Nazism. The hypocrisy of banning nazi symbols while allowing soviet ones is just unbearable.

You are just going to have to live with the fact that you're the weirdo on this. People do not see Nazism and communism as similar or comparable. Nazism has discrimination and extermination of the "other" as core tenets of the ideology, communism is an economic model that simply does not have those elements no matter how desperate you are to assign them to it.

Authoritarianism is bad. But communism is not authoritarian. Governments calling themselves communist have become authoritarian and committed atrocities. But as much as weirdos like yourself like to deny it, governments capable of genocide are also capable of lying about being communist.

Completely agree, and I think the pithy tl;dr of this is simply:

Communists have hurt and killed people in service of the ideology. With fascism, hurting and killing people is the ideology.

Weird how he just… disappeared instead of admitting you may have a point. How long until he makes the same argument in another thread?

I mean most of the examples of "communism" we have are pretty damn authoritarian. The big two, the USSR and China, are all in on that shit, peaking with probably the mad regime of Stalin. Both are also pretty bad at communism.

But every third nation on Earth is currently run by a right wing hardcore authoritarian of one sort or another, from petty dictators to (increasingly few) monarchs. It's the only form of government right wing politicians ever really pay attention to and the only solution right wing politics ever proposes.

(Yes, even the "Libertarians".)

Communism overall killed more people than nazism

This claim likely comes from the black book of communism, which includes lowered birth rates as deaths. Birth rates sink when women gain more freedom and education, so it should absolutely not be considered a bad thing, let alone a death.

Further, if the calculations used in that book were applied to capitalism, capitalism would have caused more deaths.