Children’s picture book flagged at Alabama library because author’s last name is ‘Gay’

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Children’s picture book flagged at Alabama library because author’s last name is ‘Gay’
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Madison County Public Library administrators were asked to go over a list of potentially "sexually explicit" books to be moved from the children's and young adult section to the adult section. The majority of these books were about the LGBTQ community. At least one was added to the list because the author's last name is Gay.

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If anyone bothered to read the article, the book is not being banned but is simply flagged for removal from the children's section into the adult section. Obviously a mistake in this instance but there has been a recent rise in sexually explicit books being marketed towards children in the name of activism.

There hasn't been a rise in sexually explicit books being marketed to children. There's been a rise in claims that anything that even touches upon LGBTQ is sexually explicit.

There's a book about two male penguins that raise an egg/chick. It's based on a true story. But since it's two MALE penguins, it's deemed "not appropriate for children" and is moved out of the children's section. Nevermind that the book is designed for kids or that there's no "penguin sex" in the book. The mere fact that two males are sharing a parental role is enough to label it "sexually explicit" because the people who oppose this book imagine that the two male penguins might have sex at some point. Meanwhile, if the exact same book were published but with a male and female penguin, it would be okay. Even if you could imagine the male and female penguin having sex. (And, again, there's no actual sex or even the implication of sex. This is totally in the imaginations of the adults trying to ban the book.)

There hasn’t been a rise in sexually explicit books being marketed to children

You've clearly chosen your side but I hope you can come to acknowledge that maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Some people are using this as an excuse to criticize lgbt but it's also true that sex positive activists are a bit too eager to impose their beliefs on children in public schools. What you described is probably an example of the former, but that does not mean the latter doesn't happen.

"Criticize LGBTQ"? They've claimed that anything that even mentions LGBTQ is sexually explicit and must be banned. If a character in a book so much as says "I'm gay," that's enough for the book to be banned. Meanwhile, a book where a boy likes a girl is deemed just fine because that's not LGBTQ.

The book banning movement is an attempt to erase LGBTQ from literary works by saying "LGBTQ= Sexually Explicit."

You are generalizing. There is a genuine reason not to want non binary theythem activists teaching your young child.

First of all, this isn't generalizing. The article above is about an author's book being banned because his NAME is "Gay." Teachers have gotten in trouble with parents because they had rainbows in the classroom. Books are being targeted merely for the tiniest bits of LGBTQ content.

Secondly, now you're saying that anyone who is non-binary shouldn't be teaching kids? For what reason? Does the fact that they use they/them pronouns make them unsuitable to be teachers for some reason?

Activists shouldn't bring their activism into gradeschool classrooms was my point.

So Christian activists shouldn't push their anti-LGBTQ beliefs into grade school classrooms? Or does this only apply to LGBTQ people being unable to speak their minds?

Also, how do you define "activist?" If a grade school teacher happens to be lesbian, should she be able to mention her wife in the same manner that an equivalent straight teacher would be able to mention her husband? (For example, "my wife/husband and I went on vacation.") Does mentioning that she is married to a woman make her an activist? Does a non-binary teacher asking to be referred to as "they/them" automatically become an activist for doing so?

I'm not going to entertain your "DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT THE PHENOMENA YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR IT DOESNT EXIST" bullshit. There's a lot of nuance to this topic and its hard to draw concrete lines anywhere, but I would say teachers should focus on the curriculum and not their personal life. I don't think explicitly anti-lgbt indoctrination belongs in classrooms either. I want teachers to avoid discussions about sensitive social issues altogether, it is not their role.

Stop trying to make it a both sides issue when in fact, the fascists are the only ones trying to fuck over kids.

You have yet to provide a single example of the thing you're claiming "also happens" despite nobody having ever heard of this happening. We have clear examples of the anti-LGBTQ bullshittery from the OP article, where are yours?

I don't have to prove shit to you, I'm just voicing my opinion. You are welcome to call it stupid. Keep moving. Whenever I have posted evidence of sexually explicit activity in front of children it gets downplayed and I'm called a prude. I don't really care to reason with you to be perfectly honest. Like most things in life, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Maybe it's skewed to one side sometimes, but it seems people are so afraid to self criticize out of fear of giving the other side ammo.

Except the ones who want to ban books for you.

its not activists within the school requesting that, it's parents of kids.

It's groups like Moms for Liberty, an outside group that quotes Hitler in their newsletter.

Yes, that reason is called bigotry.

no, it's not. when (if) you have children one day you will recognize why its not a good thing to let activist teachers confuse your kids.

As a parent, I can confidently state that not all of us are bigots , not all of us want our kids to be bigots, and not all of us preach hatred for anyone different

no, it’s not

It's bigotry and absolutely nothing else at all. Just because you're easily confused, that doesn't mean you need to project your deficiencies onto your children.

sex positive activists are a bit too eager to impose their beliefs on children in public schools

This is nonsense

It's not nonsense. I don't think the activists think they're doing anything wrong or have bad intent, they just don't respect the innocence of children as much as others, which causes conflict.

they just don’t respect the innocence of children as much as other

This is the nonsense part.

it's not nonsense.

Sex positive educators are literally experts in age-appropriate sexual discussion.

Pretending they are not because age-appropriate discussion freaks you out is your mistake not theirs.

Experts do actually know more than you do

TRUST THE EXPERTS TO TEACH YOUR KID ANAL SEX YOU ARE JUST IGNORANT IF YOU DONT WANT THAT. I would not want my kid anywhere near "sex positive educators"

Hey guess what? Your kid is going to try anal some day. Might be nice for them to know how to do it safely, when that time comes.

And yes, there is a bevy of literature available for what age ranges such subjects are appropriate, and those guidelines are followed by trained professionals.

Hey guess what? Your kid is going to try anal some day.

You're a fucking sicko. No, kids do not need to be taught how to do anal sex by their school teachers. Can't believe i'm typing that.

Screenshotting this.

It's so telling of how you look at the world that you think I would ever feel regret about posting that comment lol

While your reaction is funny, the sad thing is that your denial of reality causes genuine harm and long-term suffering.

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