Learning about religion in school isn't necessarily a bad thing. We studied the major religions, Buddhism, pantheism, and to a lesser degree minor religions as a part of social studies in 7th grade. I think it was the first time anyone actually told me there were 'options' other than Christianity. More importantly, it helped me understand where others are coming from even though I don't share their faith. If it's approached from a purely educational standpoint I think religion does have a place in school - and I'm an atheist. We just shouldn't be presenting any of it as fact or "right" when it's all a matter of opinion, nor teaching them about any one specific religion and excluding others.
...But that's not what Christian nationalists are working towards. They want to teach their religion, not teach about all religion.
Exactly basically what the poster above is talking about is the ideals of faith
MAGATS want to teach religion / organized religion
Well, that's how interests work. Christians pursue their interests and other groups pursue theirs. There is nothing to accuse them of.
Although I believe that God gave man freedom from the beginning, and Christians should adhere to the same principle, free choice.
You're purposefully misunderstanding or just moving the goalpost. The top level comment said "We studied the major religions," which is different than the "let us preach to your child in school" portrayed in the OP, yet you conflate them despite their differences and sum it up as "oh well that's just in their interest" as if that absolves them of anything.
Just because it is in their interests does not mean there is nothing to accuse them of, someone advocating to have -their- religion preached in school is not just a fragment of "educate about all religions in school," it is completely different to give a sermon than give a lesson. So yes, the Christians advocating for sermons in school are rightfully accused, because that's not education, that's indoctrination.
Sorry, I think I have not understood your first part. I replied to the comment saying that Christian nationalists want to only their religion being studied in school. And as I said it is ok that they are fighting for their interests and not others. Would it be Muslims, atheists or buddhists they also want to only their religion being studied in school, and it is also fine. But not only one group is deciding and influencing on a school program. And they do not make it.
Preaching in school is different because you are insisting a person to do the act of preaching. And my opinion there is no place for such a things in mainstream schools.
And yes, teaching a religion is when you learn the basics like you learning the basics of some philosophy, and reading the Bible like you will reading "War and Peace", not sermon.
Preaching and sermon is acceptable in private schools because parents are decide how they want their children educated.
And as I said it is ok that they are fighting for their interests
No, it's not. When their interests are destructive to free society, it is not okay for them to fight for their interests.
“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. (Matthew 26:52)
Is this destructive to free society?
You clearly aren't reading my posts, and are just looking for a reason to be upset.
Sorry. 😞
Teaching all religions is definitely important. Teaching that christian creationism is just as likely/plausible as evolution is a big problem
As a Christian, I couldn't agree more! Let the kid learn about the different religious beliefs! I've been learning about otherreligionns and they are all pretty cool!
I'm against religion as an organized institution that influences the world on a daily basis, but fuck comparative mythology is cool as hell. Thanks to it we got Morrowind's amazing lore, since it was one of Kirkbride's fields of study in college.
Maybe we should teach religion in schools under two contexts. Historical mythology (Made up stuff from the past people incorrectly believed in) and Current mythology (Made up stuff that people currently incorrectly believe in).
The question/problemmatic part about current stuff is who decides what counts as "current mythology". Even scientific doctrine is disproven (cause that's the best part about science).
Now, I totally see Historical mythology being a great class.
I mean, dude comes back from the dead, dude lives in the belly of whale, snakes talk, all animals on earth on a boat........Do we really need laboratories and Phd's to pore over these matters to call them mythology? I think science has more pressing matters to deal with rather than debunk fairytales. No?
Learning about religion in school isn't necessarily a bad thing. We studied the major religions, Buddhism, pantheism, and to a lesser degree minor religions as a part of social studies in 7th grade. I think it was the first time anyone actually told me there were 'options' other than Christianity. More importantly, it helped me understand where others are coming from even though I don't share their faith. If it's approached from a purely educational standpoint I think religion does have a place in school - and I'm an atheist. We just shouldn't be presenting any of it as fact or "right" when it's all a matter of opinion, nor teaching them about any one specific religion and excluding others.
...But that's not what Christian nationalists are working towards. They want to teach their religion, not teach about all religion.
Exactly basically what the poster above is talking about is the ideals of faith
MAGATS want to teach religion / organized religion
Well, that's how interests work. Christians pursue their interests and other groups pursue theirs. There is nothing to accuse them of.
Although I believe that God gave man freedom from the beginning, and Christians should adhere to the same principle, free choice.
You're purposefully misunderstanding or just moving the goalpost. The top level comment said "We studied the major religions," which is different than the "let us preach to your child in school" portrayed in the OP, yet you conflate them despite their differences and sum it up as "oh well that's just in their interest" as if that absolves them of anything.
Just because it is in their interests does not mean there is nothing to accuse them of, someone advocating to have -their- religion preached in school is not just a fragment of "educate about all religions in school," it is completely different to give a sermon than give a lesson. So yes, the Christians advocating for sermons in school are rightfully accused, because that's not education, that's indoctrination.
Sorry, I think I have not understood your first part. I replied to the comment saying that Christian nationalists want to only their religion being studied in school. And as I said it is ok that they are fighting for their interests and not others. Would it be Muslims, atheists or buddhists they also want to only their religion being studied in school, and it is also fine. But not only one group is deciding and influencing on a school program. And they do not make it.
Preaching in school is different because you are insisting a person to do the act of preaching. And my opinion there is no place for such a things in mainstream schools.
And yes, teaching a religion is when you learn the basics like you learning the basics of some philosophy, and reading the Bible like you will reading "War and Peace", not sermon.
Preaching and sermon is acceptable in private schools because parents are decide how they want their children educated.
No, it's not. When their interests are destructive to free society, it is not okay for them to fight for their interests.
“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. (Matthew 26:52)
Is this destructive to free society?
You clearly aren't reading my posts, and are just looking for a reason to be upset.
Sorry. 😞
Teaching all religions is definitely important. Teaching that christian creationism is just as likely/plausible as evolution is a big problem
As a Christian, I couldn't agree more! Let the kid learn about the different religious beliefs! I've been learning about otherreligionns and they are all pretty cool!
I'm against religion as an organized institution that influences the world on a daily basis, but fuck comparative mythology is cool as hell. Thanks to it we got Morrowind's amazing lore, since it was one of Kirkbride's fields of study in college.
Maybe we should teach religion in schools under two contexts. Historical mythology (Made up stuff from the past people incorrectly believed in) and Current mythology (Made up stuff that people currently incorrectly believe in).
The question/problemmatic part about current stuff is who decides what counts as "current mythology". Even scientific doctrine is disproven (cause that's the best part about science).
Now, I totally see Historical mythology being a great class.
I mean, dude comes back from the dead, dude lives in the belly of whale, snakes talk, all animals on earth on a boat........Do we really need laboratories and Phd's to pore over these matters to call them mythology? I think science has more pressing matters to deal with rather than debunk fairytales. No?