Mastodon's Eugen Rochko in talks with Meta?!😱

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Omg that thread was illuminating.

Key points are:

  • xmpp was systematically killed by Google by "embrace, enhance, extinguish" where they federated, added bells and whistles, then de-federated after having essentially all users.
  • meta systematically removes competition. It is naive to assume anything otherwise, and both meta and the fediverse is international, so governments have less ability to enforce (and enforcement via govs are mostly via the elite and interest groups)
  • control over the fediverse can be lost to big tech via updates to protocol that can't be bug fixed fast enough, a fork being run on big instances via a compromised sysadmin selling out for cash or other benefits
  • link sharing is about interesting content (not social inertia like messenger apps and social apps like Facebook) so it is not a perfect analogy.
  • there is no negativity on the fediverse yet
  • once users become the product (even partially), the fediverse will be driven to enshittification via the same pressures of big tech

Ugh. This crap makes me want to become a Luddite. I wonder if I can move into the Unabomber's old cabin in the woods. (I promise I won't make any bombs!)

friendly reminder that Luddites weren't opposed to technology, just wary of its misuse and how it was going to benefit the people higher up rather than the workers.

Weird, that sounds exactly like my current problem

Wonder why being called a Luddite is nowadays an insult

Also wonder why skinning a babies genitals is considered not child sexual abuse

And why diamonds are considered rare when millions of them sit in warehouses to artificially keep prices up

The answer is always someone profited by making it so, and that should concern you

there is no negativity on the fediverse yet

Hard disagree there. I've seen plenty of negativity on Mastodon.

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Reading this article I was constantly reminded of how Apple has designed iMessage in order to create an "us versus them" mentality. The amount of vitriol that some Apple users will direct at SMS texting is saddening.

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