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Zack@feddit.de to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 264 points –
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There is no argument for "both sides bad" when one side is currently right now this instant blowing up hospitals, schools, and children. One side is objectively worse and it's the side hiding behind the skirts of "antisemitism" as they carry out an Arabic genocide

I disagree.

Both sides are bad, no matter who is currently the aggressor.

Now because there is aggression, the aggressor has an obligation to stop it, and we have an obligation to force a stop in the conflict as well. But that doesn't make the other party less Bad in this. Both sides killed a lot of innocent people, both have inhumane ulterior motives and both are supporting further escalation. But ofc if there's only one party doing the fighting, then that's the party that acutely needs to be stopped.

This distinction is very important to me, because you are not suddenly the good guy because you stopped killing civilians. You are just not actively doing war crimes which means we don't have to intervene because of you anymore, which is at least one less reason. But you are not holy because "this year it was only 300 war crimes".

"Both have inhuman ulterior motives"

Palestine wants to be free

Israel wants to genocide Palestine and live in their homes

Yes I can see how wanting liberty and self governance is exactly the same as wanting more land for your historically landless people regardless of how many natives you have to kill. Completely balanced

The attacks weren't perpetrated by a free Palestinian people or some recognized advocacy group, but by an extremist wing of the Muslim Brotherhood that has been pushed by Israel for decades.

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So forcing an entire people's into ghettos and taking their land, while putting them under blockade and only reluctantly letting I'm small amounts of aid and food, all while bombing them weekly is actually good, because sometimes they fight back, making them the aggressor?

The post you replied to called no actor in this good. That's your own forced dichotomy. To condemn an act does not mean you condone every act taken in response.

But ofc if there’s only one party doing the fighting, then that’s the party that acutely needs to be stopped.

Hamas never stopped fighting and they still have about 200 hostages. What makes you think that the IDF would stop fighting now?

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