I've seen some anti choice people frame it as a father's right to have their child exist. Which if you squint and don't think about it too hard kind of makes half a point. Sucks to be in that situation and can feel some sympathy, but doesn't rise to the level of justifying using someone's body/ making medical decisions for them without their consent though. Not agreeing with the stance of course, but that's the only framing I can think of that's not "just lying on purpose"
Yeah like I sympathize with people in that position until they try to ban abortion or feel they should have a legal say in whether or not someone else remains pregnant.
In this case though, I think it is still lying on purpose. This situation still happens with similar regularity because having an abortion when your partner wants to keep it isn’t something often done lightly. More of a common scenario now is men whose partner and them both want an abortion, but the risk or cost of pursuing it is too high so they’re stuck with a kid neither wanted.
...frame it as a father’s right to have their child exist...
That "right" (which doesn't even exist) does not override someone else's right to bodily autonomy.
I've seen some anti choice people frame it as a father's right to have their child exist. Which if you squint and don't think about it too hard kind of makes half a point. Sucks to be in that situation and can feel some sympathy, but doesn't rise to the level of justifying using someone's body/ making medical decisions for them without their consent though. Not agreeing with the stance of course, but that's the only framing I can think of that's not "just lying on purpose"
Yeah like I sympathize with people in that position until they try to ban abortion or feel they should have a legal say in whether or not someone else remains pregnant.
In this case though, I think it is still lying on purpose. This situation still happens with similar regularity because having an abortion when your partner wants to keep it isn’t something often done lightly. More of a common scenario now is men whose partner and them both want an abortion, but the risk or cost of pursuing it is too high so they’re stuck with a kid neither wanted.
That "right" (which doesn't even exist) does not override someone else's right to bodily autonomy.