While it isn’t surprising in Mexico, it is also not surprising from any other country either. Not sure what’s the point of singling it out.
Yeah honestly if something like this happened in one of the redder states in the US I would not be remotely surprised.
Living in a red state, I would? It's not every year that an elected official gets whacked, even one that's a member of a hated minority. For reference, there's been 57 assassinated government officials in the US total: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_politicians
Saying "Eh this is just par for the course all countries are like this" feels like it minimalizes the problem.
"Not every decade" is maybe a poor choice of words given your supplied evidence. Though technically it does look like 2 decades were skipped... but a handful of decades had more than 5 to make up for those skipped decades.
"Not every year" would at least be a much more defensible statement given your provided context.
Yeah, that's fair. FWIW it's still uncommon enough that "Eh it happens" isn't reasonable.
That might be due to our heavy government surveillance system. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that a militia was arrested before they could carry out their plan to kidnap the governor of Michigan. The year before that a Coast Guard lieutenant was arrested before he could kill journalists and Democrat politicians. There was that nutjob who took a hammer to Pelosi's husband's head (Didn't even catch that one in time!) There's tons of attempts to assassinate presidents. Kinda feels pretty par for the course.
But the original point, I think, was that it's kinda weird for someone to say it's not surprising for it to happen in Mexico, as if it's some third world country run like New York in Escape from New York while pretending it doesn't happen in the US frequently. The US is just a bigger police state so they catch most of them before anyone dies. The FBI has plants in militias and groups like them all over the country specifically to catch this kind of thing. Most governments just can't afford that kind of manpower. The US is not special or really that much safer, and comments normalizing this kind of thing for Mexico is why anyone even made that argument. It's definitely shitty, and probably racist to think that it's reasonable, when it's in Mexico, people say "Eh it happens.”
What? This would be pretty damn surprising, please don't fight ignorance with more ignorance, it's not a good look
Pretty damn surprising to you maybe. I'm speaking for myself.
It would be surprising they were stabbed not shot?
I would be surprised they would elect a LGBTQ+ friendly politician in the first place
In general, or just in red states? Cross-referencing LGBT politicians with their states' historical political leanings, an openly LGBT politician has been elected or reelected while their state was considered republican a total of 96 times. The lead is actually a three-way split between Florida, Georgia, and Arizona, each with a total of 9.
So. Less than it perhaps should. Way more than you'd think.
I would be surprised they were stabbed rather than shot. US conservatives are too cowardly for a knife fight.
While it isn’t surprising in Mexico, it is also not surprising from any other country either. Not sure what’s the point of singling it out.
Yeah honestly if something like this happened in one of the redder states in the US I would not be remotely surprised.
Living in a red state, I would? It's not every year that an elected official gets whacked, even one that's a member of a hated minority. For reference, there's been 57 assassinated government officials in the US total: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_politicians
Saying "Eh this is just par for the course all countries are like this" feels like it minimalizes the problem.
"Not every decade" is maybe a poor choice of words given your supplied evidence. Though technically it does look like 2 decades were skipped... but a handful of decades had more than 5 to make up for those skipped decades.
"Not every year" would at least be a much more defensible statement given your provided context.
Yeah, that's fair. FWIW it's still uncommon enough that "Eh it happens" isn't reasonable.
That might be due to our heavy government surveillance system. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that a militia was arrested before they could carry out their plan to kidnap the governor of Michigan. The year before that a Coast Guard lieutenant was arrested before he could kill journalists and Democrat politicians. There was that nutjob who took a hammer to Pelosi's husband's head (Didn't even catch that one in time!) There's tons of attempts to assassinate presidents. Kinda feels pretty par for the course.
But the original point, I think, was that it's kinda weird for someone to say it's not surprising for it to happen in Mexico, as if it's some third world country run like New York in Escape from New York while pretending it doesn't happen in the US frequently. The US is just a bigger police state so they catch most of them before anyone dies. The FBI has plants in militias and groups like them all over the country specifically to catch this kind of thing. Most governments just can't afford that kind of manpower. The US is not special or really that much safer, and comments normalizing this kind of thing for Mexico is why anyone even made that argument. It's definitely shitty, and probably racist to think that it's reasonable, when it's in Mexico, people say "Eh it happens.”
What? This would be pretty damn surprising, please don't fight ignorance with more ignorance, it's not a good look
Pretty damn surprising to you maybe. I'm speaking for myself.
It would be surprising they were stabbed not shot?
I would be surprised they would elect a LGBTQ+ friendly politician in the first place
In general, or just in red states? Cross-referencing LGBT politicians with their states' historical political leanings, an openly LGBT politician has been elected or reelected while their state was considered republican a total of 96 times. The lead is actually a three-way split between Florida, Georgia, and Arizona, each with a total of 9.
So. Less than it perhaps should. Way more than you'd think.
I would be surprised they were stabbed rather than shot. US conservatives are too cowardly for a knife fight.