As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business

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As Apollo and other apps close down, Narwhal seemingly agrees to one-off deal with Reddit to stay in business
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IIUC Narwhal 1 will be free but will drop its ads in return for being free (so a non-commercial app). Rather than a special deal I figure that this passed under the same rule that other noncommercial apps like RedReader did.

Narwhal 2 will charge a subscription to cover the API fees, including top up fees if you go over some limit, suggesting this is the normal reddit API pricing. I think developers of like Apollo couldn't do this because they had preexisting annual subscriptions. I guess Narwhal didn't have anything like this.

I guess I thought the whole issue was even if the app was not commercial, in order for users to actually make it work they need to use reddit API and that's unsustainable since it cost money regardless. Maybe that's where my misunderstanding stems from. I'm not the most tech savvy with all this API stuff.

Your understanding is correct, but reddit did announce exemptions for noncommercial apps and accessibility apps (without defining the latter term). IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be lunprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be unprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

They did, ignoring the fact that the scales are completely different and the fact that the 3PAs helped mods and engaged, contributing members provide content and services that Reddit didn't have to pay for, thereby mitigating or maybe even completely counterbalancing the costs of supporting them.

Agreed. I just tried to state what they said - in my defense i never said that what they said made sense because as you just said it doesn't really make sense.

I don't think they said noncommercial and accessibility apps but rather noncommercial accessibility apps

Ah possible. Maybe Narwhal 1 was still able to get an exemption under this rule (because reddit never defined what an accessibility app was) and is just keeping mum about or downplaying the accessibility angle.

without defining the latter term

Which is why many of us rolled our eyes and ignored the statement as usual lol

Thank you! Finally getting a complete understanding. Appreciate the info!

It seems like there’s going to be a super premium tier for power users to cover that cost

including top up fees if you go over some limit

top up fees for some forum? lol

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