They did contribute towards usb c. And lightning came out years before c did. They had promised to only switch connectors once a decade because people got so mad about the switch from the thirty pin to the lightning.
Source for them contributing towards USBC prior to implementing lightning port?
Weird request when USB-C was released 2 years after lightning.
That's not a weird request at all, they could have contributed to the USBC protocol before it released, that's... How it works you know.
You’re asking for proof they contributed before an arbitrary date. Can you provide a list of everyone other than Apple who contributed before 2012?
Those are two completely different lists. One is “the promoter group” and the other is “everyone involved” which are in no way equivalent. It’s like the opening credits on a movie, vs the closing credits. One of the two is inherently going to be more detailed.
That's true, but if Apple was heavily invested at the time, you'd think they'd show up in the "opening credits" :p
Really my point was just that Apple designed the lightning connector instead of working collaboratively toward a USBc-like standard
They did work collaboratively towards a standard. They just also in parallel worked on their own project, because they know standards can take an indefinite amount of time, so it could have been a decade to get USB C fleshed out, while they had already been working on Lightning in the background.
They did contribute towards usb c. And lightning came out years before c did. They had promised to only switch connectors once a decade because people got so mad about the switch from the thirty pin to the lightning.
Source for them contributing towards USBC prior to implementing lightning port?
Weird request when USB-C was released 2 years after lightning.
That's not a weird request at all, they could have contributed to the USBC protocol before it released, that's... How it works you know.
You’re asking for proof they contributed before an arbitrary date. Can you provide a list of everyone other than Apple who contributed before 2012?
We can look at the press release announcing USBC from 2013 where Apple isn't mentioned at all... https://studylib.net/doc/18619173/usb-type-c-press-release-from-2013
It looks like they were mentioned in a 2014 list however https://www.docdroid.net/uf3z/typec-pdf
Those are two completely different lists. One is “the promoter group” and the other is “everyone involved” which are in no way equivalent. It’s like the opening credits on a movie, vs the closing credits. One of the two is inherently going to be more detailed.
That's true, but if Apple was heavily invested at the time, you'd think they'd show up in the "opening credits" :p
Apple has been a member of the USB-IF (the group that creates USB specs) since at least 2009. https://www.loopinsight.com/2009/07/24/palm-reports-apple-to-the-usb-implementers-forum/
https://www.engadget.com/2009-07-24-palm-complains-about-apple-to-usb-governing-body-while-pre-it.html
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/24/palm-reports-apple-to-usb-compliance-organization-over-itunes-syncing-issues/
Really my point was just that Apple designed the lightning connector instead of working collaboratively toward a USBc-like standard
They did work collaboratively towards a standard. They just also in parallel worked on their own project, because they know standards can take an indefinite amount of time, so it could have been a decade to get USB C fleshed out, while they had already been working on Lightning in the background.