Hamas had not planned to attack music festival, Israeli report says

News@lemmy.world – 115 points – 8 months ago

First police investigation of Supernova festival also found Israeli forces responsible for some deaths.

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Basically both of you think the other one is trying to shift blame, when in actuality you're trying to make sure both are blamed.

Sums up a lot of arguments over this war.

Precisely, there is no innocent party in this conflict.

Those civilians would not have died if Hamas had not attacked civilian areas.

And yet, by your very own bullshit IDF soldiers shooting civilians are indeed innocent because it's all Hama's fault.

"there is not innocent party in this conflict" is not some solve-all catchphrase to get rid of criticism. It needs to actually be applied and those soldiers need to scrutinized for what happened there.

IDF should be held to account also. I never once made excuses for the crimes of others. You want a cheap get out to deflect blame. I don't accept that.

No, I want Isreal's government and military to account for the things they did and not get a free pass because "BuT hAMaS".

You however have fully eaten up the propaganda of how everyone questioning Israel is somehow magically supporting Hamas and trying to deflect from their terrorist acts. And only when you realize that your bullshit claims like

The whole reason there were any casualties is because Hamas attacked

They [Hamas] created that fog of war though.

The rest is just propaganda until you can produce data to back it up. Just stating that Israel committed blue on blue attacks is not really good enough.

don't fly, you pay lip service to allegedly being critical of both sides, only to then instantly continuing to blame Hamas for Israel killing people.

So you want Israel to investigate errors of judgement that were made under duress. Without a doubt where errors are made then countries need to learn from them. Just remember those errors were caused by the actions of Hamas.

And, where did I say Israel supported Hamas? It is not a claim I have ever made. You are misquoting yet again to twist your narrative.

So first you lied about things you wrote in this very thread and you now you went over to intentionally misreading what I wrote to make accusations (and while I didn't talk about Israel supporting Hamas here -maybe you are confusing things you read here with the ones on your spreadsheet of talking points-, Israels government indeed supported them financially and that's as well documented as other things you deny)? How about you bother someone else with your crude propaganda techniques?

/ignore

"I cannot substantiate my point so I am not talking to you."

A pretty pathetic response. Peddle your narrative elsewhere please.

"I lie, then I maliciously misread comments to lie some more and then I lie and pretend the points weren' substantiate. To then tell everyone how I bravely "won" an argument because ignoring my lying ass is somehow "pathetic"...

Here's a piece of colored chalk. Please go and paint some pretty pictures on the closest highway.

I thought I was being ignored.

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